College Playoff

[Jake]

That's what I thought, the comments weren't off topic, but were off preference for you.

Unlike you, I have commented extensively on the actual teams/games in these playoffs. You, on the other hand, are in this thread for one reason and we both know it.

 

[jwinslow]

If you're waiting for an apology for your bait succeeding and pulling it off track, you're going to be here awhile.

p.s. I can't imagine what word you'd use to describe the volume of your non-game commentary in this thread. It would certainly be rather extreme.

 

[Muck]

Now don't go bringing facts into the argument...

Appalachian State offers FREE playoff tickets

This year, Appalachian State will attempt to rectify dropping postseason attendance by offering free student tickets to playoff football games, as opposed to the $5 ticket price charged in the past.

Despite the importance of playoff games, attendance for ASU?s postseason games has plummeted over the last six playoff appearances, with average attendance declining by nearly 10,000 fans per season.

In the NCAA, non-seeded teams have to promise to meet a minimum ticket threshold. To meet the threshold this year, Athletic Director Charlie Cobb proposed footing the bill for student playoff tickets.

?At the end of the day, what can we do to help drive attendance?? Cobb said. ?All of us recognized that students are a big part of our fan base. This will be the first year that it?s done?it?s been something debated for us and I was glad to be able to put it out there.?

Last season, Appalachian State totaled 29,028 fans cumulative for both playoff games. Meanwhile, this season?s rivalry matchup against Western Carolina drew 30,622 fans alone.

.../snip/...

ASU has arguably the best fan support in 1AA.

Their playoff games draw less than half the attendance of their regular season home games.

The only 1AA championship games that have come close to ASU's average home attendance were ones in which Marshall played for their title...at home.

 

[Zurp]

ASU has arguably the best fan support in 1AA.

Their playoff games draw less than half the attendance of their regular season home games.

The only 1AA championship games that have come close to ASU's average home attendance were ones in which Marshall played for their title...at home.

I am about as anti-playoff as anyone.
But it has nothing to do with attendance.

 

[BB73]

Here's a variation of the Plus-1 idea, in order to eliminate the conference rematches, retain the integrity of the regular season, the tradition of the bowls, and somewhat satisfy those needing more than the top-2 BCS teams facing off. It's something similar to what looked possible when the 4 Super-Conferences were being considered.

Let's focus on whether this could work- spare me the '4 teams isn't enough' argument - that isn't happening any time soon - the school presidents (who are the actual decision makers) don't want it.

Proposal

Take the four highest rated conference champions in the BCS standings, and have two games on New Year's Day, with the winners facing off in the (location-rotating-annually) BCS Title Game 7 to 10 days later. If either the Big Ten or the Pac 10 Champion (or both) is among the 4 highest rated conference champions, the Rose Bowl gets them.

There are no AQ Conferences. If the MAC or Sun Belt Champion is rated above 7 other conference champions, in they go. That addresses the "access for the little guys" factor.

Benefits (in general, and specifically to tOSU)

- The Rose Bowl retains about as much importance as a non-championship game could, which the PAC and B1G would prefer

- No conference rematches in the Title game

Issues:

- Could they get agreement among all of the conferences for this?

- Would they have to allow a more highly rated independent to get in over the 4th conference champion, in order to give ND/BYU a chance? Or could they all just agree to this, effectively shutting out the Domers, which is fine with me.

- The non-Rose Bowl BCS sites wouldn't like the Rose Bowl getting a National Semifinal game almost every year, which they would get each time either a PAC or B1G Champion is among the top-4 of the conference champions. Would the SEC be able to force a Sugar Bowl-type condition for the other semifinal? That would make the Orange and Fiesta supporters not like the whole idea.

- The 'playoff' games are all still in places like LA-Phx-Nawlins-Miami, which is occasionally a real advantage to non-Northern teams (more than occasionally if you're LSU!)

- Is a split title more likely if the #2 team is not a conference champion?

- In what other ways would this be good or bad for tOSU?

 

[knapplc]

BCS source: Playoff 'gets done' as part of new contract


NEW ORLEANS?Ugly doesn?t begin to describe it. But it most certainly defined it?in such a profound way that even the men who run this crazy, controversial contraption we call the Bowl Championship Series are giving in.

Years from now, this BCS National Championship Game won?t be remembered so much for Alabama?s utter domination of LSU as it will the beginning of radical change in college football. A national playoff is coming, everyone.

It?s only a matter of what it looks like.

?It gets done,? a high-ranking BCS official told Sporting News Monday evening.

Here?s how: over the next six months, the leaders of the sport will meet at least four times to iron out a plan that protects the importance of the regular season?the one aspect BCS leaders believe separates the game from every other?while embracing a new frontier for the poll-driven sport.

It begins Tuesday here in New Orleans with a meeting of conference commissioners, and includes meetings in Dallas in February and Miami in April. Another meeting in June is also likely, especially considering the magnitude of the potential change.

When asked what the playoff would look like, a high-ranking BCS source said there are ?at least 60? different options on the table, and that includes everything from a four-team playoff to one game after all the bowls.

A playoff would be a welcome gift coming from the abomination of this championship game. Make it so.

 

[BigWoof31]

If the MAC or Sun Belt Champion is rated above 7 other conference champions, in they go. That addresses the "access for the little guys" factor.

[ORD] OUTRAGEOUS! THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT THAT BIG SCHOOLS MAKE. SOMETHING, SOMETHING FREDO, SOMETHING SOMETHING BLUE FIELD, SOMETHING SOMETHING SANCTIMONY, SOMETHING IN 1898 THE CHARTER FOR THE STATE OF OHIO....SOMETHING SOMETHING FUCK [/ORD]

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I'll bet the first playoffs will involve either only four or eight teams, but will eventually expand to 16 as they figure out how to squeeze money out of each game.

 

[Bucknut24]

I'll bet the first playoffs will involve either only four or eight teams, but will eventually expand to 16 as they figure out how to squeeze money out of each game.

if it goes to 16 (which I hope not) it better involve home field adv

really anything more than 10 is too much imo, but if it does, please add home field

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

if it goes to 16 (which I hope not) it better involve home field adv

I think I-AA (FCS) has home field advantage for the first two rounds, IIRC.

 

[CentralMOBuck]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2011-10/lsualabama/story/even-with-playoff-coming-sec-still-big-winner-lsu-alabama-national-title-game?eadid=EL/SICOM&sct=hp_t2_a11[/URL]]a plan that protects the importance of the regular season

Why does the BCS keep trying to drive this point home? They've been saying this forever, right? If that is so important how the hell did we end up with last nights matchup?

 

[BUCKYLE]

Why does the BCS keep trying to drive this point home? They've been saying this forever, right? If that is so important how the hell did we end up with last nights matchup?

Are you sure the BCS said...wait..what the fuck did they say?

 

[TJnTN]

So is Delany going to piss and moan about a playoff and/or plus-one??

 

[jlb1705]

I'll bet the first playoffs will involve either only four or eight teams, but will eventually expand to 16 as they figure out how to squeeze money out of each game.

You're damn right. People who say it's not a slippery slope are people who don't realize that that that we already have a two-team playoff and that their desired solution is simply an expansion of the BCS sham-pionship system. Under most of the common playoff proposals, nobody seems to think through how the field will actually be selected. It would end up being the same damn echo chamber of self-fulfilling bullshit that sets the agenda now.

Any solution that does not limit a playoff to CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS ONLY is simply an expanded version of what we already have.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Any solution that does not limit a playoff to CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS ONLY is simply an expanded version of what we already have.

I can see certain scenarios where a conference runner-up should be allowed to get into the playoffs, as long as they are seeded below their conference champion. Had the first Alabama-LSU not been a fucking snooze-fest, but rather an exciting very close game, few folks would've been complaining about their rematch in the BCSCG. Shouldn't really punish the second best team in the country for happening to be in the same division as the best. The Super Bowl, World Series, Stanley Cup, March Madness, etc., playoff systems don't always crown the best team as champion, but few complain about the eventual winners.