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College Playoff

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ORD_Buckeye said:
Someone needs to tell the Rose Bowl to go fuck itself. I've never seen such an inverted power dynamic than with the bowls. College football lets them call the shots despite their having actually zero product. They're fucking venues. That's all. I don't give a shit about tradition. Nobody is tuning in to see a building. The schools and conferences control the actual product, amd it's time they start acting like it. Rose Bowl doesn't like it then they can fill in that date with another rodeo or monster truck rally.

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2022/11/28/college-football-playoff-decision-rose-bowl-this-week
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I think it’s stupid that we have bowls for the playoffs. Now one team will have two bowl trophies, and no championship every year.

But I think it’s even more stupid to have this rotating bullshit.

So take two bowls (have them bid on it) and make them the semis. And take the next four as the quarters.
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
I think it’s stupid that we have bowls for the playoffs. Now one team will have two bowl trophies, and no championship every year.

But I think it’s even more stupid to have this rotating bullshit.

So take two bowls (have them bid on it) and make them the semis. And take the next four as the quarters.
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I'm all for home field for every round except the final, which rotates around major NFL stadiums. The bowls had their time. That time is done.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
well there you go then

The Game 2023 will be the last time it looks like what we all have known it to be our whole lives. Wow.
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Think about it, starting with the 2024 season Ohio State could actually end up playing scUM 3 times, i.e. the Game, B1G CCG, and in the CFPs. It's tough to beat a good team twice in 1 season let alone 3 times.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
well there you go then

The Game 2023 will be the last time it looks like what we all have known it to be our whole lives. Wow.
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Just one more thing on a giant list of things that will go down as what once was a great time to be alive.

The Game becoming meaningless might be enough time and change for all of us to drop dead at this rate. I’ll be on the couch begging the lord to “Just take me now!” like Tony Soprano’s mother while they discuss the multiple rematch scenarios.
 
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I think this essentially brings it past 12 teams.

If you have 1st week byes for conference champions it really elevates those games. You’ll have Georgia and lsu really playing for something. While at the same time Purdue will get left out win or lose. Since they only need to take 4 champions.

first 4 get a bye, second 4 get to make some extra cash, third 4 get a shot.
 
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When it's at 12 teams, what does a conference like the B1G or the SEC gain by having it's two best teams play again in a CCG? They are, most likely, only playing for seeding and already in the field of 12.

I think those games might be an immediate casualty of an expanded playoff.
 
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I'm all about the expanded playoffs. More meaningful games after the conclusion of the regular season. I agree with @Jaxbuck comment about CCG dropping away.

Now, I will be interested to see the reaction if there is a time when OSU and michigan play twice in a season by going to the expanded playoffs. I have a feeling the powers that be will try and avoid matching them up in the playoffs, at least early rounds. But who knows. I'm willing to chance it just for the expanded playoffs though.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
When it's at 12 teams, what does a conference like the B1G or the SEC gain by having it's two best teams play again in a CCG? They are, most likely, only playing for seeding and already in the field of 12.

I think those games might be an immediate casualty of an expanded playoff.
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BuckBackHome said:
I'm all about the expanded playoffs. More meaningful games after the conclusion of the regular season. I agree with @Jaxbuck comment about CCG dropping away.

Now, I will be interested to see the reaction if there is a time when OSU and michigan play twice in a season by going to the expanded playoffs. I have a feeling the powers that be will try and avoid matching them up in the playoffs, at least early rounds. But who knows. I'm willing to chance it just for the expanded playoffs though.
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I'll take to opposing view, CCGs aren't going anywhere. In a conference where everyone does not play everyone in the regular season you need a definitive (and fair) way to declare a Conference Champion.

Three points:

1) Well, in some cases they won't have played in the regular season, i.e. like Alabama and UGA this year. So they won't be playing again.
2) They are actually playing for the distinction of being the Conference Champion and I think that is important/relevant. Seeding definitely is a by product though; when you put 2 top 12 teams in a game, one team has to lose and it could bump them out of the top 12 in the final CFP polls. A team could also be bumped out of the top 4 which means that they would lose their "bye".
3) In addition, CCGs probably won't be eliminated because it brings in revenue for the conference and it's all about the money.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
I'll take to opposing view, CCGs aren't going anywhere. In a conference where everyone does not play everyone in the regular season you need a definitive (and fair) way to declare a Conference Champion.

Three points:

1) Well, in some cases they won't have played in the regular season, i.e. like Alabama and UGA this year. So they won't be playing again.
2) They are actually playing for the distinction of being the Conference Champion and I think that is important/relevant. Seeding definitely is a by product though; when you put 2 top 12 teams in a game, one team has to lose and it could bump them out of the top 12 in the final CFP polls. A team could also be bumped out of the top 4 which means that they would lose their "bye".
3) In addition, CCGs probably won't be eliminated because it brings in revenue for the conference and it's all about the money.
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There is no one size fits all, sometimes it will help, sometimes it will hurt. I think it's going to be a more steady negative for the big boys (SEC and B1G) than the smaller conferences. I also think only having the first round at home really makes this tricky. Once you are in and past a projected first round match up, what good is the higher seed?

I agree with #3 completely...until conferences start getting bit in the ass more than helped by the CCG's right before the playoffs or the teams start resting players and diluting the product. Advertisers aren't going to like that at all.
 
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