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LovelandBuckeye said:
Looks like 12 teams is where we are heading.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ng-could-create-larger-field-as-soon-as-2024/
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A subcommittee of commissioners developed a 12-team bracket that was favorably received in June 2021. The model included six automatic qualifiers -- the six highest-ranked conference champions -- and six at-large teams. That would likely be the format adopted if expansion settles on 12 teams. Such a bracket could be adopted as a short-term placeholder with future expansion to 16 teams if the board agrees to increase the field, sources said.
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What I like about this format: it does not list any conferences as being better than any other conferences. I hate the idea of giving the P5 conference champions any benefit over the G5 conference champions. This plan puts them all on the same level, initially, and lets the conferences separate themselves throughout the season.

What I hate about this format: SIX conference champions are going to get in. That 6th conference champion might be ranked #25. Do they really need to be in the playoff before the #11 team? Or another team right around there?

First, I would say that the playoffs should not be a reward for "a pretty good season". The playoffs should be a way to determine the champion amongst the teams who deserve to be considered champions. Are there really 12 teams who deserve a shot at being champions? I don't think so. Keep the playoffs small.

Second, I know this is the direction this is going. So.... I would vote that if you're going to have 12 teams in the playoffs, only rank the top 16 teams. If you're Team #17, you won't even know it, because nothing over #16 was even published. Next, the top 2-4 teams are in, regardless of whether they won a conference championship. Next, go down the list, taking just conference champions. Once you get to 12 teams, you're done. If you get to #16 and haven't filled out the 12 teams, go back up to the top and start taking at-large teams, until you get to 12 teams. If you want to go to 16 teams, maybe rank 20-24 teams. I just don't want to see a team that lost 3 non-conference games, then goes 7-1 in conference and won their conference championship game get in as the #6 conference champion. Boof.

Third, move the fucking games to the home stadiums of the better-ranked teams. Or at least let the better-ranked teams choose where the games will be played. If Ohio Stadium isn't suitable for a winter game (I think I heard that they have to turn water off to the stadium in the winter, or something) then let Ohio State choose to move it to Indianapolis or another indoor facility. But it should be treated as a home game for Ohio State - Ohio State gets 95% of the tickets. The final game could and should be in a neutral site.

That is all.
 
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Zurp said:
What I like about this format: it does not list any conferences as being better than any other conferences. I hate the idea of giving the P5 conference champions any benefit over the G5 conference champions. This plan puts them all on the same level, initially, and lets the conferences separate themselves throughout the season.

What I hate about this format: SIX conference champions are going to get in. That 6th conference champion might be ranked #25. Do they really need to be in the playoff before the #11 team? Or another team right around there?

First, I would say that the playoffs should not be a reward for "a pretty good season". The playoffs should be a way to determine the champion amongst the teams who deserve to be considered champions. Are there really 12 teams who deserve a shot at being champions? I don't think so. Keep the playoffs small.

Second, I know this is the direction this is going. So.... I would vote that if you're going to have 12 teams in the playoffs, only rank the top 16 teams. If you're Team #17, you won't even know it, because nothing over #16 was even published. Next, the top 2-4 teams are in, regardless of whether they won a conference championship. Next, go down the list, taking just conference champions. Once you get to 12 teams, you're done. If you get to #16 and haven't filled out the 12 teams, go back up to the top and start taking at-large teams, until you get to 12 teams. If you want to go to 16 teams, maybe rank 20-24 teams. I just don't want to see a team that lost 3 non-conference games, then goes 7-1 in conference and won their conference championship game get in as the #6 conference champion. Boof.

Third, move the fucking games to the home stadiums of the better-ranked teams. Or at least let the better-ranked teams choose where the games will be played. If Ohio Stadium isn't suitable for a winter game (I think I heard that they have to turn water off to the stadium in the winter, or something) then let Ohio State choose to move it to Indianapolis or another indoor facility. But it should be treated as a home game for Ohio State - Ohio State gets 95% of the tickets. The final game could and should be in a neutral site.

That is all.
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The more conference champions, the harder it is for ND to get in or the SEC to pack the playoffs with 5 teams. Now, I'm not for letting all 11 in (nobody wants the MAC or CUSA champ in), but 6 is a good number.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
The more conference champions, the harder it is for ND to get in or the SEC to pack the playoffs with 5 teams. Now, I'm not for letting all 11 in (nobody wants the MAC or CUSA champ in), but 6 is a good number.
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Your hatred of Notre Dame is known and not unique. But I don't think there should be rules to try to keep them (or anyone) out, or other rules to try to get them (or anyone) in. I hated the "Notre Dame rule" in the BCS. If Notre Dame is ranked higher than some other nerd school, then they should be in.

Of course, if you keep the number of teams at 4, it'll make it harder for them to make it in, too. In 8 years, they've made it to 2 playoffs. Should they have been left out either of those years? (I'm asking because I barely remember those years. I think in one of them - maybe 2020 - they beat Clemson in the regular season and then lost to Clemson in the ACC CG. The other time.... yeah, I don't even remember which year it was.) Would the 12-team format being proposed have kept Notre Dame out?

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd rather let the 10th ranked Notre Dame team get in over the 17th ranked Mountain West champion.
 
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I was in favor of 8 teams, but no more than that. I really don't like the idea of byes determined by subjective measures, but we know what it's all about.


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So they’ll take the top 6 conference champs, and the 4 highest ranked conference champions will get the first round bye and be seeded 1 thru 4.

Then teams seeded 5 through 8 will host (or choose the location for) the first round games against teams 9 through 12.

ESPN sees 1 SEC team in the top-4, which is fine, but they’ll be lobbying for 4 more SEC teams to be seeded 5/6/7/8 so they can host all of the non-bowl game locations. There’s their narrative for the 2024 and 2025 seasons.

Can’t wait for the 2026 season and beyond, where God and Kevin Warren willing, we’ll have multiple networks televising the CFP.

But there will be the occasional #9 through #12 SEC team coming up to play a December playoff game at #5 through #8 tOSU, Wiscy, Penn State, etc., so that will be something to look forward to.
 
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BB73 said:
So they’ll take the top 6 conference champs, and the 4 highest ranked conference champions will get the first round bye and be seeded 1 thru 4.

Then teams seeded 5 through 8 will host (or choose the location for) the first round games against teams 9 through 12.

ESPN sees 1 SEC team in the top-4, which is fine, but they’ll be lobbying for 4 more SEC teams to be seeded 5/6/7/8 so they can host all of the non-bowl game locations. There’s their narrative for the 2024 and 2025 seasons.

Can’t wait for the 2026 season and beyond, where God and Kevin Warren willing, we’ll have multiple networks televising the CFP.

But there will be the occasional #9 through #12 SEC team coming up to play a December playoff game at #5 through #8 tOSU, Wiscy, Penn State, etc., so that will be something to look forward to.
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Yep. 2 loss SEC teams getting "home seedings" over 1 loss teams (or even 3 loss SEC teams getting it over a 2 loss team from another league). It's gonna happen every time "THEY HAD TO RUN A GAUNTLET!" of course.
 
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