College Playoff

[greyscarlet]

depending on how the host site is determined.

if it is determined as a "home field" for the higher seeded team, then fine.

if you decide today that 3 years from now it's played in cold weather stadium, and it's just random luck that weather benefits 1 team over the other, that's not right.

Nope, While I prefer home site it shouldn't matter either way. It's not like Tampa/miami/San Diego/Nawlins would be upset about playing in NY for the superbowl. Stop being dishonest. The truth is you know there's an advantage now and you don't want to give it or the $ up. Anything other than those reasons is either a lie or downy soft.

 

[greyscarlet]

You want it played in an environment that favors your team. Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.

If you mean a football environment then yes, that is what is wanted. We also take some of the tourism $.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

This is an illogical point because when the football powers that be were located in the Northern-Midwestern states and all the power was centered in the midwest, there was no change made to the bowl sites.

So, Alabama, LSU, and Southern Cal just recently got good? The only time you can even remotely claim that "all the power was centered in the Midwest" was before WWII.

If there was general unhappiness and perceived unfairness, fans of B1G teams wouldn't travel to Pasadena or New Orleans but you show up in the tens of thousands.

So what the fuck are B1G fans supposed to do when their team has to play in Nawlins, Miami, or Pasadena...boycott? Fuck that. Bring fucking Alabama, LSU, Florida, or USC to Columbus, Ann Arbor, or Slappy Valley in mid-December for the first/second round of a 16-team playoff.

 

[cincibuck]

I think you and I are talking in circles but your ticket sales suggestion assumes that sales would decrease if the games were played in the midwest or north east?

This isn't about weather.
You want it played in an environment that favors your team. Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.

The Bowl games were started by tourism bureaus. At the time the NC was declared at the end of the regular season and these games were played as "exhibitions."

"Environment" is not decided by weather alone.

The point of mild to warm weather sites and domes is to take the elements out of the game and to eliminate anything other than 85 players and my coach vs. 85 players and your coach.

See above regarding "environment" and the fact that playing in a warm weather site is no guarantee of "taking the elements out of the game." Your point in insisting on the need for warm weather seems to me indicate that 'warm weather teams" are at a disadvantage if asked to play outdoors outside of the South.

If your coach and 85 players are so dumb as to forget to bring some warm clothing then they deserves to lose.

 

[greyscarlet]

So what the fuck are B1G fans supposed to do when their team has to play in Nawlins, Miami, or Pasadena...boycott? Fuck that. Bring fucking Alabama, LSU, Florida, or USC to Columbus, Ann Arbor, or Slappy Valley in mid-December for the first/second round of a 16-team playoff.

I have a feeling Delaney has something up his sleeve. Possibly a known investor that will front the money to get a city / large bowl going to bid on the playoff spot being in the midwest (Indy most likely).

 

[jlb1705]

This isn't about weather.
You want it played in an environment that favors your team. Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.

You're damn right we do.

I don't care about fairness or neutrality. I care about the Buckeyes.

 

[greyscarlet]

If your coach and 85 players are so dumb as to forget to bring some warm clothing then they deserves to lose.

Don't help them figure this out, they probably would have figured this out on there own after a decade or two.

 

[BigWoof31]

You're damn right we do.

I don't care about fairness or neutrality. I care about the Buckeyes.

Thank you for your honesty.
The BP argument is about doing everything to help one team win, not "playing football where it was meant to be played"

 

[jwinslow]

Thank you for your honesty.

The BP argument is about doing everything to help one team win, not "playing football where it was meant to be played"

The BP argument is that after a half century of playing road bowl games, it would be nice if ONE of them was in the midwest, while still preserving the other 3+ locations that favor other conferences.

We aren't asking to play the BCS final in Indy every year. We're asking for our region to be involved.

I know, that's too much to ask, and we're the only ones being dishonest with ourselves about why we like/dislike a midwest bowl game.

Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.

The Sugar bowl doesn't favor Lousiana State when they're in it? Bah.

:p

 

[buckeyesin07]

Thank you for your honesty.
The BP argument is about doing everything to help one team win, not "playing football where it was meant to be played"

I know, I know--if you're from the south, you think "playing football where it was meant to be played" translates into "the SEC gets another home game, and teams of fans from the midwest should just deal with it."

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

This isn't about weather.
You want it played in an environment that favors your team. Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.

When southern teams play in warm/mild conditions throughout November and practice in those conditions throughout December, it most certainly favors them over the northern teams who play practice for months in the cold and elements.

Play some games in the north for playoffs along with playing some in the south.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Funny how the argument essentially boils down to the Big Ten fans saying, "play some games up North if we earn them by being the higher seeded team."

The Southern/Western schools are saying, "no cold weather games under any circumstances."

Who's being unreasonable?

 

[cincibuck]

"playing football where it was meant to be played"

Did the SEC invent football? I missed that story. If I recall correctly, football came about on college campuses in the northeast section of the United States, something about Rutgers and Princeton... and thus "football where it was meant to be played," would seem to indicate a site well north of the Mason - Dixon Line.

Basketball, bingo and tractor pulls are supposed to be played indoors. Baseball, golf, tennis and badminton must factor in weather. Water ski shows and Esther Williams movies work best in areas with palm trees in the background.

Football, rugby, full contact beer chugging and deer hunting are not limited by such restrictions.

 

[BigWoof31]

Funny how the argument essentially boils down to the Big Ten fans saying, "play some games up North if we earn them by being the higher seeded team."

The Southern/Western schools are saying, "no cold weather games under any circumstances."

Because that's not what B1G fans are saying. It's more like:

"The system is unfair. Change decades worth of bowl tradition because we've only won two MNC's in 40 years. Give us some advantage"

While the rest of College football rolls it's eyes, makes that jerk off motion with its fist and says:

"You record isn't because of the weather or because you had to spend an extra hour on a plane ride."