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Nutriaitch;2171786; said:
got to be in a dome if it's up north.

these sites will all be determined well in advance of knowing who will be playing in them.

the last thing people want to see is 2 warm weather teams pillow fighting in a snow storm.

And here I was beginning to like you.

First: No arena ball. That stuff is bull shit.

Second: Are you telling me Bart Star/Joe Namath/Y.A. Tittle (to name just three warm weather HOF QBs) couldn't throw a pass in "football weather?"

Are you saying that Arron Rodger's or Bret Favre has/had to count on his running game in December?

What about two warm weather teams duking it out in a California monsoon, or a bit of Florida tropical downpour? How is that any better?

We're talking about football, not basketball, the World Series or the US Open.
 
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cincibuck;2171834; said:
First: No arena ball. That stuff is bull [Mark May].

Second: Are you telling me Bart Star/Joe Namath/Y.A. Tittle (to name just three warm weather HOF QBs) couldn't throw a pass in "football weather?"

Are you saying that Arron Rodger's or Bret Favre has/had to count on his running game in December?

What about two warm weather teams duking it out in a California monsoon, or a bit of Florida tropical downpour? How is that any better?


If these are your criteria, then you have three options.

San Francisco
New York City
Washington DC


No other cities meet the basic requirements of hosting a national final (appropriately sized airport, lodging for 100k+, efficent and enough public transportation, Open air stadium with seating for 70k).

That's it. No Boston, No Chicago, No Seattle. The stadium size eliminates all three.
 
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No other cities meet the basic requirements of hosting a national final (appropriately sized airport, lodging for 100k+, efficent and enough public transportation, Open air stadium with seating for 70k).

That's it. No Boston, No Chicago, No Seattle. The stadium size eliminates all three.
I don't see 70k in his post, nor is U of Phoenix Stadium anywhere close to it at 63.4k.
 
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BigWoof31;2171863; said:
By Cinci's requirements - it's not longer a candidate. Games cannot be played outside and its weather is too warm.
Nice attempt at a strawman, but he said nothing of the sort.

He correctly pointed out that the south has obtrusive weather as well, yet we keep going back to Florida for Super Bowls and a big chunk of bowl games.
 
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jwinslow;2171867; said:
Nice attempt at a strawman, but he said nothing of the sort.

He correctly pointed out that the south has obtrusive weather as well, yet we keep going back to Florida for Super Bowls and a big chunk of bowl games.


Stop with this - you know what he means. He doesn't want the game played in rain, he wants in played in snow, snow and more snow. There are volumes of threads about B1G teams being constructed for just that fact and thats why Domes should be eliminated.

If its not a complaint about travel to the game site being longer, its a complaint about throwing a ball in inclimate weather.
 
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greyscarlet;2171875; said:
No other strong conferences are outside of the warm weather / coastal regions. Convienient for you.


Please.
Oregon plays most of their games in cold weather or persistent rain.
They are cheating scumbags - but you don't hear a peep about them having to go to Pasadena.

Hell - a brief search of BadgerBlitz and MGoBlog indicates that Bucky and UM fans don't complain about it.
 
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BigWoof31;2171872; said:
Stop with this - you know what he means. He doesn't want the game played in rain, he wants in played in snow, snow and more snow. There are volumes of threads about B1G teams being constructed for just that fact and thats why Domes should be eliminated.

If its not a complaint about travel to the game site being longer, its a complaint about throwing a ball in inclimate weather.
If you refuse to bring anything but hyperbolic sound bites because they're easier than actual debate, then I'm done with this.

Nutri said what many anti-northern bowl arguments claim, that playing up north would be bogged down by snow.

Cinci responded that the best aerial assault in pro football does just fine in Green Bay, and then pointed out that big bowls/NFL games are often played in southern monsoons, and asked why that was better.

Nowhere did he claim that:

- warm weather should be outlawed
- rainy weather should be avoided
- only snow is the goal

Yet you laughably claimed all three.


It's pretty freaking simple, Woof. The B1G has played virtual road games for the last century when it comes to bowl games.

We'd like to play one freaking major bowl game in our region. Just one. Is that such an unfair request?

And yes, we'd like it to be outside, not in a weatherless dome, even if that means the wimpy fans (northern & southern alike) have to put on a freaking hat and coat.

Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Green Bay, New York have all managed the snow for years with plenty of classic postseason games. Great quarterbacks have risen to the challenges of cold, snow, humid monsoons and the rest. Others have crumbled.
 
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greyscarlet;2171816; said:
Yet one of the first thing others want to see is one of those warm weather pillow fighters hauling it up north to play a "cold weather" team in the cold. You know, tit for tat.


depending on how the host site is determined.

if it is determined as a "home field" for the higher seeded team, then fine.

if you decide today that 3 years from now it's played in cold weather stadium, and it's just random luck that weather benefits 1 team over the other, that's not right.

cincibuck;2171834; said:
And here I was beginning to like you.

First: No arena ball. That stuff is bull shit.

Second: Are you telling me Bart Star/Joe Namath/Y.A. Tittle (to name just three warm weather HOF QBs) couldn't throw a pass in "football weather?"

Are you saying that Arron Rodger's or Bret Favre has/had to count on his running game in December?

those guys?
yeah.

the current crop we got?
probably not worth a shit
 
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