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BigWoof31;2171872; said:
Stop with this - you know what he means. He doesn't want the game played in rain, he wants in played in snow, snow and more snow. There are volumes of threads about B1G teams being constructed for just that fact and thats why Domes should be eliminated.

If its not a complaint about travel to the game site being longer, its a complaint about throwing a ball in inclimate weather.

Wow! Show me where I used the word snow?

What I said is that rain is just as taxing on a team as cold weather.

What I am implying is that teams that never have to leave their region to play an NC game have a distinct advantage.

What I have said repeatedly is that you CAN play football in cold weather.

What I will add is that blizzards in the north are no more common than rain storms in the south or west.

In the past I have suggested that there be four sites: Chicago, New York, Miami, NO or Houston and LA or SF.

Not a single Big 10 team plays a game in Soldier Field, Notre Dame is the only team I know that plays in the Meadowlands with any sort of regularity. The same holds true for Player's Stadium in Miami. Likewise I'd prefer to see Candlestick to the Rose Bowl.

I would suggest that the final game be rotated among the 4 sites.

As the NFL amply demonstrates each and every year is that football CAN be played in cold weather sites and that players from warm weather schools
preform quite well in those situations.
 
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Watching Peyton Manning crumble in the New England snow is great football.
Watching Aaron Rodgers fire lasers in frigid temperatures is great football.
Watching Peyton Manning adjust to a car wash super bowl is great football.
Watching players adjust to slippery fields (warm mud or cold snow) is great football.

The potential for complex weather adds to the game. It's not a necessity, great football can be played without wind or weather, but removing all possibility of the unexpected is handcuffing a man's game for the sake of fan comfort.
 
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Rose Bowl's TV deal extended

Twelve more years of hearing "plays in space" and "athleticism" from ESPN's commentators in the Rose Bowl.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...xtend-rose-bowl-deal-20120628,0,6711931.story

The Big Ten, Pac-12 and ESPN have announced a 12-year extension with the Rose Bowl through 2026. As reported Tuesday in the Tribune, the deal locks in the Rose Bowl for the coveted time slot (4 p.m. Chicago time, 2 p.m. in Pasadena) on New Year?s Day ? or Jan. 2 when New Year?s Day falls on a Sunday.
 
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jwinslow;2171916; said:
great football can be played without wind or weather, but removing all possibility of the unexpected is handcuffing a man's game for the sake of fan comfort.

This is the central point in 'southern'/domed bowl locations, and it boils down to fan's willingness to shell out to go to these games. More money to be made if fan 'comfort' can be guaranteed...

At least, that seems to be the pervailing perception of the powers that be...
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;2171937; said:
This is the central point in 'southern'/domed bowl locations, and it boils down to fan's willingness to shell out to go to these games. More money to be made if fan 'comfort' can be guaranteed...

At least, that seems to be the pervailing perception of the powers that be...

Yet fans flock to Green Bay, the Meadowlands, Foxborough, Chicago, etc. in the cold and snow, even warm-weather fans.

Here's the problem, "neutral sites" will almost never be truly neutral unless you're selecting them right before the game(s), and especially when the majority of them up for selection are in the area of just two of the major conferences, creating defacto home games for them. Eliminate the guise of a neutral field and go to home field, or the closest large city/stadium if the home team field is deemed too small (i.e. Soldier Field if Northwestern ever made it, Indy for IU or Purdue, etc.).
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;2171937; said:
This is the central point in 'southern'/domed bowl locations, and it boils down to fan's willingness to shell out to go to these games. More money to be made if fan 'comfort' can be guaranteed...

At least, that seems to be the pervailing perception of the powers that be...

Or the local CofC and the state tourism bureau promised money, or made death threats, if their precious money maker was threatened.

It's time for the Big 10 commish to wake up and start doing something for his home district and not for the Greater LA Tourism and Florists Association.
 
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ucfknight;2171745; said:
If you play the games at a home stadium, there would be a non stop cryfest from the pundits and opposing fans. It has to be on a neutral field.

Bullshit. Don't want to play on the road, earn a higher seed during the regular season. It's just as likely (probably more likely given the SEC! love) that Ohio State or Michigan would end up playing their first round games in Baton Rouge or Toothlessloosa than their having to come up North.

Where is the non stop cryfest about home field in every professional playoff system?
 
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cincibuck;2171960; said:
Or the local CofC and the state tourism bureau promised money, or made death threats, if their precious money maker was threatened.

It's time for the Big 10 commish to wake up and start doing something for his home district and not for the Greater LA Tourism and Florists Association.

Beautiful point.
 
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BigWoof31;2171832; said:
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-plans-pitch-for-1465767.html


Atlanta is ready to go one this one.
Throwing its hat in the rotation for a semi-final game.

Thank Fucking God. I'd hate for more than one of these games to be outside the SEC's backyard.


But I don't blame your cities or your schools or your conference. I blame Delaney for grabbing his fucking ankles and not even bothering to ask Slive for a reach-a-round. For the alleged smartest guy in the room, his performance was utterly pathetic.
 
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FCollinsBuckeye;2171937; said:
This is the central point in 'southern'/domed bowl locations, and it boils down to fan's willingness to shell out to go to these games. More money to be made if fan 'comfort' can be guaranteed...

At least, that seems to be the pervailing perception of the powers that be...



This is an illogical point because when the football powers that be were located in the Northern-Midwestern states and all the power was centered in the midwest, there was no change made to the bowl sites. If there was general unhappiness and perceived unfairness, fans of B1G teams wouldn't travel to Pasadena or New Orleans but you show up in the tens of thousands.


If you want to convince me that people have been clamoring for some type of college football playoff for years, I'll buy it.
But the Rosebowl and Orange bowl are 50+ years old and nobody wants them eliminated.

The point of mild to warm weather sites and domes is to take the elements out of the game and to eliminate anything other than 85 players and my coach vs. 85 players and your coach.
 
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The point of mild to warm weather sites and domes is to take the elements out of the game and to eliminate anything other than 85 players and my coach vs. 85 players and your coach.
:lol: No, it's not, it's to sell tickets.

If this was about eliminating weather, they wouldn't keep playing in Florida.
 
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jwinslow;2171988; said:
:lol: No, it's not, it's to sell tickets.

If this was about eliminating weather, they wouldn't keep playing in Florida.


I think you and I are talking in circles but your ticket sales suggestion assumes that sales would decrease if the games were played in the midwest or north east?

This isn't about weather.
You want it played in an environment that favors your team. Not an environment that favors no team, like a Dome or the sunny rose bowl.
 
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BigWoof31;2171983; said:
The point of mild to warm weather sites and domes is to take the elements out of the game and to eliminate anything other than 85 players and my coach vs. 85 players and your coach.

And here I thought elements were part of the game. All this time I thought I saw games being played outdoors. If you can deal with rain/snow/hot/cold you should not be playing football, or even watching it for that matter. On the other hand synchronized swimming is very consistant temperatures, you may enjoy that more.

I'm thinking the snowbowl should have an asteriks beside the win for Green Bay.
 
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