College Playoff

[ShowMeBuck]

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them."

-Albert Einstein

 

[buckeyebri]

I am not a fan of the committee picking who the four teams are. While I am sure they will have all sorts of criteria that could get quite ridiculous. I am in favor of rewarding the six major conference champs and including two at large teams for an eight team playoff. Let the committee select the two at large, which would allow for a potential Cinderella invite where you have a Boise St. or TCU scenario, as well as allow for the inclusion of a really good team that got bounced in one game.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Do you think that those Div IAA playoffs that you wax so endlessly about existed forever?

In the 70's the NCAA realized that roughly half of the teams participating in Div 1 football had no realistic shot at ever being competitive over a long period of time with the largest schools. So they did exactly what you have stated cannot be done. They created a new division strictly for the larger schools with more resources. They named it IA. And that happened only 5 years after the original I/II/III split.

I'm just pointing out that we've been down this road before. This is not an unprecedented situation.

I would go even further than Muck and say such a split is necessary not primarily because of competitive reasons but because of money reasons. These schools are literally pulling millions of dollars away from academics in the form of institutional subsidies or directly out of their students pockets in the form of fees to subsidize their athletic departments in the vain hope that they'll--against all odds--grab the brass ring. Boise has all but gutted their entire athletic department and cast it adrift without a conference to chase the dream of being a college football big boy.

In a time when higher education funding is strapped as it is, stepping in and forcibly saving these schools from their own bad policies is the right thing to do.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

In a time when higher education funding is strapped as it is, stepping in and forcibly saving these schools from their own bad policies is the right thing to do.

Fucking commie. Why wouldn't you just let the invisible fist of the free market pound them into the sand?

:p

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

[censored]ing commie. Why wouldn't you just let the invisible fist of the free market pound them into the sand?

:p

It has. They just haven't gotten the message. Their bull[Mark May] always starts with, "we just want a chance at a playoff," but you don't need to scratch the mid-major mentality too far before their real agenda comes up: revenue sharing, budget caps, soccer style relegation. One idiot on the Nevada board actually took his full retard dial to 11 and argued that "wealthy" schools should have their endowments capped, and people shouldn't be allowed to donate to them until the small schools catch up. The only thing that should be "capped" is this mongoloid.

They're too stupid to understand that they are [censored]ing away scarce resources that most of them don't have to spare down a rathole of illusions, delusions and false dreams. It's time for the big boys to step in, restore order and save them from themselves.

They should thank us for it, but they won't.

 

[Muck]

I would go even further than Muck and say such a split is necessary not primarily because of competitive reasons but because of money reasons.

That's really just splitting hairs IMO. The two are essentially synonymous over the long term.

Just look at where TCU & Utah sit in AD spending currently when compared to their peers.

 

[woofermazing]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--football-playoff-approved.html;_ylt=Amsq80YlWdzGA6KUlLKIfMMcvrYF

WASHINGTON ? A group of 12 college presidents passed a plan for college football to have a four-team playoff starting with the 2014 season.
The BCS Presidential Oversight Committee emerged from a meeting at the Dupont Circle Hotel late Wednesday afternoon to announce they have adopted the playoff format that had been approved last week by the commissioners of the 11 BCS conferences.
The first playoff will take place after the 2014 season. There will be four teams, and the semifinals will be rotated among six bowl games over the life of the contract, with the championship game put up for bid. A selection committee will rank the teams, based on factors including head-to-head matchups.
Semifinals will be held on Dec. 31 and Jan. 1; the championship game will be played on the first Monday that is at least six days after the last semifinal. The first playoff game will be Dec. 31, 2014.
This ends years of debate over the idea of a college football playoff, a subject that has even drawn the attention of President Barack Obama, who has been an advocate of a playoff system.

And here we go.

 

[RhodeIslandBuck]

Which six bowls does everyone think will be part of rotation? Obviously, the four current BCS Bowls will be used but the last two spots are up for grabs. The Cotton is almost certain to get a spot but after that it seems foggy. Chick-Fil-A? Capital One? Which bowl is most likely to grab the last spot in the rotation?

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Which six bowls does everyone think will be part of rotation? Obviously, the four current BCS Bowls will be used but the last two spots are up for grabs. The Cotton is almost certain to get a spot but after that it seems foggy. Chick-Fil-A? Capital One? Which bowl is most likely to grab the last spot in the rotation?

I'm sure the final 2 will based on distance from Columbus.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I would go even further than Muck and say such a split is necessary not primarily because of competitive reasons but because of money reasons.

Money was the main reason for the creating I-AA for the smaller schools in the late '70s, not competitiveness. That's why they have their scholarships capped at 63, vice 85 for I-A. Prior to that, there were no scholarship caps, so schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, etc., can toss out scholarships like candy.

Muck points to lack of parity as a need for a religation of about half the team out of I-A. Well, if you're going to kick teams out because they historical aren't very good, then you'll have to kick out at least one team (Indiana) if not more (Minnesota) from the B1G.

It's not fucking rocket science people. You just take the top 8 or 16 teams by BCS rankings, regardless of whether or not they were conference champs, and seed them. It works for all other divisions...

 

[Ryan36_1]

Muck points to lack of parity as a need for a religation of about half the team out of I-A. Well, if you're going to kick teams out because they historical aren't very good, then you'll have to kick out at least one team (Indiana) if not more (Minnesota) from the B1G.

I'm not sure Minnesota was the team you are looking for in this conversation.

 

[dragurd]

Which six bowls does everyone think will be part of rotation? Obviously, the four current BCS Bowls will be used but the last two spots are up for grabs. The Cotton is almost certain to get a spot but after that it seems foggy. Chick-Fil-A? Capital One? Which bowl is most likely to grab the last spot in the rotation?

Doesn't look Like anything but the Rose bowl is garanteed from the old guard by the ESPN Article. Also no Notre Dame exception that is known of.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...-team-college-football-playoff-beginning-2014

There will be three contract bowls -- the Champions Bowl, which is a partnership between the Big 12 and SEC, the Rose Bowl, which has a longstanding tradition between the Big Ten and Pac 12, and a bowl to be determined for the ACC, which is likely to continue its partnership with the Orange Bowl.

"In terms of our contract bowl, and our New Year's Day tie-in, we expect to have an announcement on that jointly in the very near future," Swofford said.
The three other bowls, called "access bowls," have yet to be determined, but the decision will force the Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl to become bidders.

 

[cincibuck]

I am not a fan of the committee picking who the four teams are. While I am sure they will have all sorts of criteria that could get quite ridiculous. I am in favor of rewarding the six major conference champs and including two at large teams for an eight team playoff. Let the committee select the two at large, which would allow for a potential Cinderella invite where you have a Boise St. or TCU scenario, as well as allow for the inclusion of a really good team that got bounced in one game.

A. Let's make a list of the MAJOR independents: 1. Notre Dame

B. I'm not going to be in favor of anything that doesn't break the stranglehold the tourist industry holds on college football's NC. Either name the champ BEFORE the bowl games, or put the playoffs into four rotating sites - Chicago,
NYC, Miami and LA with the NC game moved between those four venues.

 

[Tonyank]

I am not a fan of the committee picking who the four teams are. While I am sure they will have all sorts of criteria that could get quite ridiculous. I am in favor of rewarding the six major conference champs and including two at large teams for an eight team playoff. Let the committee select the two at large, which would allow for a potential Cinderella invite where you have a Boise St. or TCU scenario, as well as allow for the inclusion of a really good team that got bounced in one game.

This but in 14 years.

 

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

How much money will the players make off this billion dollar deal?