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zincfinger;2058577; said:
Yes, what it intended to do was obvious. What it failed to do, by virtue of the peculiar selectivity which I pointed out, was equally obvious.
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Did you miss the final four and championship games in the bracket? It was obviously created as a joke. I'm sure all games prior to the final four were quickly selected without much thought just to fill the bracket.
 
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BigJim;2058636; said:
Did you miss the final four and championship games in the bracket? It was obviously created as a joke. I'm sure all games prior to the final four were quickly selected without much thought just to fill the bracket.
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No, I got the "joke", although I'm not sure I'd agree that the OKSt/ISU game was left off the bracket by sheer, random accident. But like most jokes, this one had a point, and I think the point of this one was lacking, given the omission. YMMV.
 
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I'm pretty sure a lengthy breakdown / blog is going to happen, but here is a snippet


2009 is exactly why I hate sixteen teams, particularly the mid teens ranked teams.


13. PSU 9-3
14. BYU 10-2
15. MIA 9-3
16. WVU 9-3

My proposal would have

SEC ALA 13-0
B1G OSU 10-2
B12 TEX 13-0
ACC G-T 10-2
P10 ORE 10-2

AtLg FLA 12-1
AtLg IOW 10-2
AtLg TCU 13-0

The other recent proposal removed Iowa for Cinci.

The top will not always be that great, but it will always have champions, and never have three loss teams who didn't win their conference, which is a rare combo anyway.

The low end of sixteen lets in too many mediocrity teams.

The low end of our eight lets in 2-3 top ranked at large teams, sometimes top five teams.
And, perhaps similar to Mililani, I'm curious how you arrive at the conclusion that "sixteen would be a disaster", but eight is totally kosher.
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knapplc;2058672; said:
2009 - trend identifier or outlier? I'm thinking outlier, especially with mandated parity/oversigning bans.
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Teams rated in the mid teens routinely have 2 or 3 losses (Trend). In my opinion no such team should ever be considered for National Champion. It's one thing to say Okie St "deserves" a shot... its' quite another to say 10-3 Georgia should get a shot (make that, another shot, since they just got destroyed by LSU)

Edit: These are the final results for the team rated 16th (Coaches) from 2002 on. I did not look up whether the team won or lost its bowl game.

2002: Auburn 9-4
2003: Tennessee 9-3
2004: LSU 9-4
2005: Florida 9-3
2006: Arkansas 10-4
2007: Florida 9-4
2008: Missouri 10-4
2009: Wisconsin 10-3
2010: Florida State 10-4

I guess I can see why SEC folks would want 16 teams, lol
 
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zincfinger;2057986; said:
What could possibly go wrong?

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Keep you eyes on the road!
Okay, if it'll make you feel better.

BB73;2058463; said:
You can't make me join the Rainbow Coalition.
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Since you are already a member.
 
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The only real failure right now is letting your championship game membership be decided in part by opinion polls that are heavily influenced by the increasingly agenda driven media.

Keep the computers and replace the human poll aspect with a selection committee that has solid criteria upon which to base it's choices.

TooTallMenardo;2058634; said:
:lol: The only team I wouldn't mind seeing in the 16 team format would be TCU. (from "mid majors")
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TCU is in the Big 12 remember?
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2058685; said:
Teams rated in the mid teens routinely have 2 or 3 losses (Trend). In my opinion no such team should ever be considered for National Champion. It's one thing to say Okie St "deserves" a shot... its' quite another to say 10-3 Georgia should get a shot (make that, another shot, since they just got destroyed by LSU)

Edit: These are the final results for the team rated 16th (Coaches) from 2002 on. I did not look up whether the team won or lost its bowl game.

2002: Auburn 9-4
2003: Tennessee 9-3
2004: LSU 9-4
2005: Florida 9-3
2006: Arkansas 10-4
2007: Florida 9-4
2008: Missouri 10-4
2009: Wisconsin 10-3
2010: Florida State 10-4

I guess I can see why SEC folks would want 16 teams, lol
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Get used to these kinds of records in the top eight in the Era of Parity. You're going to have more and more teams with 2 and 3 losses.

Here are the last few years (during the Oversigning Era) of #7 & #8 teams
2010 - Wisconsin, 11-2; LSU 11-2
2009 - Iowa, 11-2; Cincinnati, 12-1
2008 - TCU, 11-2; Penn State 11-2
2007 - Kansas, 12-1; Oklahoma, 11-3
2006 - Michigan, 11-2; Wisconsin 12-1


There are no undefeated teams this far back in the rankings. Even at #8 you're going to start splitting hairs. As we progress deeper into the mandated Parity Era and leave the Oversigning Era, those two-loss teams (Seven of the ten teams in my list) are going to, more and more, include three-loss teams, and possibly some four-loss teams.

I'm just saying that, if we're talking about who deserves to play for the MNC, the argument gets fuzzy past four or five teams. If we're interested in a better post-season tournament, 16 teams makes sense.
 
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I think pre-bowl W/L records should be used for this discussion, since that's when the determination (presumably) needs to be made.

TSUN with 2 losses in 2006 is obviously after the bowl games.
 
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