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College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)

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Onebuckfan said:
I actually thought tOSU had a better argument for being one of the 4 best by eye test alone versus this year. I know tOSU would have shown better than OU and MSU did.
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I don't disagree, frankly, but I'm saying the Committee has its principles and they do indeed seem to be following them. Ohio State - a one lose team - lost the "tie break" to the other 1 loss teams that had a championship on their resume.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
I actually thought tOSU had a better argument for being one of the 4 best by eye test alone versus this year. I know tOSU would have shown better than OU and MSU did.
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We sleep walked through almost the entire schedule last year. Just having the talent (and holy shit did we have the damn talent) isn't enough if you never put it together until Mich/Bowl game.


*cough*beck*cough*
 
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Zurp said:
Maybe. I hope we don't find out. Making the results of The Game meaningless is not something I want to see.
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I don't want to see it either; but I don't agree with some of the assumptions of blatant Alabama superiority and diminishments of solid BigTen teams. My point is just that Michigan is a legitimately damn tough team. And PSU, while they started the season as a mediocre team, have improved a lot to where they are a pretty tough team, too. While Alabama is certainly very good, I don't think the difference between them, and some of the better BigTen teams, is as great as some make it out to be.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
I don't disagree, frankly, but I'm saying the Committee has its principles and they do indeed seem to be following them. Ohio State - a one lose team - lost the "tie break" to the other 1 loss teams that had a championship on their resume.
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This is why BWI is up in arms if they win they will be champs and head to head that's what got MSU above us last year. For me as long as Urban and Saban are there they are in and everyone else plays for two spots it's easy as that.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
This is why BWI is up in arms if they win they will be champs and head to head that's what got MSU above us last year. For me as long as Urban and Saban are there they are in and everyone else plays for two spots it's easy as that.
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As stated above MSU only had 1 loss... PSU has gotten better no doubt but their body of work includes 2 losses and that cannot be ignored.

They found a way to beat a tired and drained OSU team (perhaps why we stalled out with 3 minutes left) but osu found a way to not lose another game.
 
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Well they all but confirmed OSU/BAMA/Clemson in last night by saying the disparity between 4 and 5 is razor thin. Nothing was said about Wisconsin or Penn State which I believe was definately a way of them saying no way are you two in the same class.

The only concerning outcome I see is if PSU absolutely throttles Wisconsin. It would have to be by 40+ points and they know that moreover.

What I gleaned the most from last night though is that BAMA/OSU were basically overwhelmingly talked about positively. They didn't mention (committee) one negative of OSU in fact seemed to pardon osu for their loss which OSU deserves.

Everyone deserves a margin of error of 1 loss and not giving OSU that benefit while giving PSU the margin of error of 2 losses is comical to me. Which luckily I believe the committee sees. Regardless I would kill for a rematch with PSU or to see them play Western Michigan. Which btw I think WMU beats penn state straight up.
 
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Random thoughts.

Taking the overall CF Playoff system to task it's inherently unfair re: the conference championship games in this respect:

One more game for a chance of injuries against a really good opponent that the Buckeyes will avoid. Although many would argue Va Tech/Florida aren't elite competition this year. But the possibility remains for fluke injuries to happen on any play.

Having said this knowing 'bama has finished the last two years with cupcakes Charleston Southern/Chattanooga before their rival game w/Auburn, if by chance Florida takes out a few star Alabama players I'd just smile. More likely 'bama will be up 35 at halftime and coast in the second half.

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Also Trevor Matich mentioned on Finebaum yesterday ped state won the B1G eastern division. Again, no they tied w/the Buckeyes, but winning the stupid tiebreaker.

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Does anyone miss Cardale Jones? There's a lot to be said for being a team of destiny where the stars align in your favor ...

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What an irony if Washington gets in, beats 'bama and wins it all. It could easily be argued Stanford was the best team at the end of last year.

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But on the flip side, the extra game could make a team more battle ready and focused ie 2014 B1G championship ~ Buckeyes 59/Wisky 0. Zeke's coming out party!

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Yes pedsters, life's not fair! Just ask Jerry's "kids".
 
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Got interested at work and figured I'd comare PSU v OSU common opponents.

OSU beat Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, and michigan worse.

PSU beat MSU worse.

So 4 to 1 to Ohio State. We also hold a better strength of schedule as well so that gives us 2 of the 4 tie breakers if somehow they decide it's razor thin. PSU was plus 71 and OSU was plus 149 against common opponents. Double what they did.

What's silly is the only reason PSU can potentially have the other two tie breaks is because they got the head to head. Meaning we didnt have a chance to obviously win the big ten championship. With components we could both control OSU holds a 2-1 advantage
 
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Re: comparisons total yards: Buckeyes 413 / ped 276. Ohio State fell asleep on a couple special team plays ~ shit happens! Plus again, two back-to-back road games vs two teams coming off their bye wks. It's a longgg season.
 
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I said PSU had an argument not that it was a good one..it's all subjective anyway record head to head conference championships don't really matter. Alabama loses they are still in and the other undefeated team won't/can't and shouldn't be in. There are really no set in stone requirements except elligibilty.
 
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Maybe in the committees minds the conference championship is only a "tie breaker" if the 2 teams have the same record?

Ohio State still has 1 less loss then Penn State. Sparty had the same record last year. So the comparison is pretty dumb.

I'd be absolutely shocked if they left Ohio State out at this point, since they have them #2 right now. It would be a lot more nerve racking if they were 4 or even 3
 
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