College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)

[Abenaki]

My my my...what would BWI do if they think they're making the playoff and end up with a MAC team

 

[bukIpower]

The Buckeyes are the only one-loss team in the B1G. The Bucks faced the two B1GCG participants in consecutive road night games, winning one by 7 and losing the second one by 3 on a blocked FG - to a team coming off a bye week. Ohio State played the toughest overall schedule of any B1G team and had the most impressive OOC road victory (by 3 TDs at Oklahoma).

"But Penn State beat them!"

Congrats to the cowardly Lions for cashing in on their bye week and home crowd. Unfortunately for them their best road win was at 6-6 Indiana. The two teams with winning records they played on the road put up 42 and 49 points on them, the latter resulting in a 39 point ass raping to Michigan - the same scUM team that lost to the Buckeyes.

There's no logical argument for keeping tOSU out of the CFP at the expense of another team, especially not a B1G team. But if you're still concerned, you should probably root for the Sooners and Badgers next weekend, just in case.

http://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

Words out of my mouth.. There will be a ton that will have an issue with us getting into the playoffs and my reply to them would be to schedule a marquee top ranked non conference game and go 3-1 against the top 8. Resume wise it's like us turning in a resume with 15 years experience and graduation with honors from Harvard's MBA program then deciding between a dude who went to west coast tech and got an associates and is 22 years old.

Landslide resume over anyone in the country. No one has done what we did this year and that includes Bama.

 

[bukIpower]

If we can't have a rematch in the opening round of the playoffs then that's exactly the fate I wish on them

 

[ScriptOhio]

Well, maybe 5th or 6th.

Now (especially if OSU beats OU this week) that other OSU team really did get screwed by the refs.

Officials involved in Oklahoma State-Central Michigan blunder suspended two games
http://www.si.com/college-football/...n-oklahoma-state-referees-officials-suspended

 

[zincfinger]

Wisconsin and Penn State are NOT jumping us.

The Buckeyes came into today at #2 and defeated #3, according to the selection committee. We're going to drop? How?

Of course OSU won't drop this week. But they definitely will drop next week when they're not playing while others are winning conference championships. The only question is whether they will drop by 3, or fewer than 3, spots.

 

[Jake]

Of course OSU won't drop this week. But they definitely will drop next week when they're not playing while others are winning conference championships. The only question is whether they will drop by 3, or fewer than 3, spots.

They're not dropping 3 spots. Maybe Clemson and Washington slip past with wins but I'll believe a team with more than one loss jumps the Buckeyes when I see it.

 

[Oh8ch]

Pretty simple in my mind. The idea of a playoff is that the four best teams play. 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3.

But low and behold the playoff starts early. The #2 and #3 teams end up playing on the last day of the regular season. Not my 2 and 3. Not Mark May's (heaven forbid). Not even the APs. But the committees very own #2 and #3.

So #2 beats #3 and a week later the committee says thanks for trying but based on your win we now think you are #5?

It is over for the playoff committee if they make that decision.


And for those talking heads who keep asking "What is the reason for a conference championship if the conference champ doesn't go to the playoffs?" - that is not a rhetorical question. There is a reason. It is to determine the conference champ based on a set of rules and tie breakers implemented by the conference. That is different than determining the best team in the conference. If PSU had lost to Pitt, Temple AND Kent St they would still be playing Wisky next weekend.

If you want to identify the two best teams in the conference you need a committee - which would send OSU and UM to Indy for a rematch.

 

[Jake]

Well, maybe 5th or 6th.

Now (especially if OSU beats OU this week) that other OSU team really did get screwed by the refs.

Officials involved in Oklahoma State-Central Michigan blunder suspended two games
http://www.si.com/college-football/...n-oklahoma-state-referees-officials-suspended

The refs definitely blew the call by giving Central Michigan an extra down, but the Cowboys didn't have to give up a 50 yard TD on that play. Hell, the CMU QB couldn't even reach the end zone, and the receiver still outran Okie State's defenders to the pylon. A half decent defensive play is all they needed, and they didn't make it.

 

[ScriptOhio]

What criteria does the selection committee use to rank the teams?
The committee selects the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering conference championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head competition, comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory) and other relevant factors that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.

Selection committee members have flexibility to examine whatever data they believe is relevant to inform their decisions. They also review a significant amount of game video. Among the many factors the committee members consider are strength of schedule, head-to-head results, comparison of results against common opponents and conference championships won. The playoff group has retained SportSource Analytics to provide the data platform for the committee’s use. This platform allows the committee members to compare and contrast teams on every level possible. Each member evaluates the data at hand, and then the individuals will vote to produce a group decision.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee-faqs

OHIO STATE IS 11-1 BUT WON'T PLAY IN THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP; WHAT'S NEXT?

The Buckeyes would benefit from Wisconsin beating Penn State in Indianapolis, another loss by Washington in the Pac-12 Championship or even Virginia Tech shocking Clemson in the ACC title game. The Huskies play either USC or Colorado next Saturday. Plus, we all know Ohio State's brand and fan base will travel and bring money to the College Football Playoff.

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...-play-for-the-big-ten-championship-whats-next

Just curious: Does anyone think money (i.e. fan base that travels well and TV ratings) is a factor in the Committee's evaluation?

 

[zincfinger]

Pretty simple in my mind. The idea of a playoff is that the four best teams play. 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3.

But low and behold the playoff starts early. The #2 and #3 teams end up playing on the last day of the regular season. Not my 2 and 3. Not Mark May's (heaven forbid). Not even the APs. But the committees very own #2 and #3.

So #2 beats #3 and a week later the committee says thanks for trying but based on your win we now think you are #5?

It is over for the playoff committee if they make that decision.


And for those talking heads who keep asking "What is the reason for a conference championship if the conference champ doesn't go to the playoffs?" - that is not a rhetorical question. There is a reason. It is to determine the conference champ based on a set of rules and tie breakers implemented by the conference. That is different than determining the best team in the conference. If PSU had lost to Pitt, Temple AND Kent St they would still be playing Wisky next weekend.

If you want to identify the two best teams in the conference you need a committee - which would send OSU and UM to Indy for a rematch.

Those are good points. I have a couple of alternative considerations. One, there has never been any definition of what is meant by "best team". Does it mean, the team that played the best, on average, for the entire season? Does it mean the team that was playing the best at the end of the season? Some combination of those? Because those are not the same things at all. OSU was definitely not one of the best four teams in the country at the beginning of the 2014 season. But at the end, they were playing as well or better than anyone. I don't think Penn State right now is as good as OSU was at the end of the 2014 regular season, but there is a similar trajectory there. Two, I don't think the CFP criterion is quite as simple as "we will choose what we believe are the best 4 teams." If Penn State and Michigan were scheduled to play on a neutral field next week, I'd pick Michigan to win. I bet you would too. Of greater relevance, I bet every member of the CFP committee would too. Notwithstanding that, I think Penn State has a much better chance to make the playoff right now than Michigan does. Because it isn't just a question of "who do we really think is the better team". When you lose, and whom you lose to, still matters quite a bit, just as it always has. Maybe even moreso.

 

[shiloh]

But they definitely will drop next week when they're not playing while others are winning conference championships. The only question is whether they will drop by 3, or fewer than 3, spots.

Wisky drops ped or it's a close game w/neither team looking impressive.
Clemson loses or looks like shit against Va Tech.
Washington loses or looks like shit against Colorado.

Then Ohio State definitely ain't dropping!

carry on

 

[shiloh]

If you want to identify the two best teams in the conference you need a committee - which would send OSU and UM to Indy for a rematch.

But TTUN and the Buckeyes are in the same division.

This has probably already been mentioned, but my simple solution re: going to (8) teams which I'm still not in favor of is:

Get rid of the conference championship games and start the quarterfinals a week after the season ie next Saturday. Yes Virginia, the little 12 will have to move their gimmicky bedlam game up and get rid of their pedestrian (2) bye bullshit! And the Army/Navy game will have to be moved up, etc.

The season is too frickin' long already.

that is all ...

 

[ScriptOhio]

OHIO STATE WON'T WIN THE BIG TEN, BUT BUCKEYES STILL BELIEVE THEY'RE ONE OF THE TOP-FOUR TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY

Ohio State will not play for a Big Ten championship.

Despite downing archrival Michigan on Saturday in a dramatic, double-overtime thriller, the Buckeyes will be watching from home next weekend as Penn State and Wisconsin play for the conference crown. The Nittany Lions blasted Michigan State after Ohio State won, so James Franklin’s team will represent the Big Ten East in Indianapolis.

It puts the Buckeyes in an interesting position. They finished the regular-season at 11-1 and have one of the best resumes in all of college football — with wins over the current No. 3, 6, 8 and 16-ranked teams in the College Football Playoff rankings — yet they aren’t guaranteed one of those final-four spots at the end of the season.

Ohio State believes it should be there, though, despite the fact it will not be a conference champion.

“It’s really out of our hands,” Buckeyes quarterback J.T. Barrett said, “but at this time, I think we are one of the top-four teams in the country, personally.”

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...e-theyre-one-of-top-four-teams-in-the-country

I'll say in all likelihood (unless there is an upset next week); the only scenario where Ohio State will be left out would be for both Washington and Wisconsin/Penn State (winner) winning 59-0 and completely dominating their opponent. In which case we might get "TCU-ed" (like we jumped them in 2014) with both winners jumping us. Alabama and Clemson would be in with just a win.

 

[CincyInterloper]

Can you imagine the butt hurt from Penn State if they win the B1G championship and OSU gets into the playoffs instead of them? It will be a complete meltdown.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Can you imagine the butt hurt from Penn State if they win the B1G championship and OSU gets into the playoffs instead of them? It will be a complete meltdown.