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College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)

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Very disappointed that Washington was left in the top 5.... We lost to a similarly ranked ped on the road at night (now ranked in top 10) and dropped 4 spots.

They lost at home soundly to the only decent team they've played and they drop 2?

I think we now need Washington to lose to WSU to get in even though we shouldn't need to based on our non conference opponents alone
 
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bukIpower said:
Very disappointed that Washington was left in the top 5.... We lost to a similarly ranked ped on the road at night (now ranked in top 10) and dropped 4 spots.

They lost at home soundly to the only decent team they've played and they drop 2?

I think we now need Washington to lose to WSU to get in
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I'm not sure which ranking you're referring to (Washington is 7 in this week's Coach's and AP and, to my knowledge, the CFP ranking for this week hasn't come out yet), but either way it makes sense that Washington would drop less right now than OSU did 4 weeks ago. Because Washington, unlike OSU, lost their first game in a week when a lot of other highly ranked teams lost, too.
 
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zincfinger said:
I'm not sure which ranking you're referring to (Washington is 7 in this week's Coach's and AP and, to my knowledge, the CFP ranking for this week hasn't come out yet), but either way it makes sense that Washington would drop less right now than OSU did 4 weeks ago. Because Washington, unlike OSU, lost their first game in a week when a lot of other highly ranked teams lost, too.
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Didn't see them 7th... ok well that's more like it.

What's your guys feeling on the pac 10 champ? Will Washington get in if they win out ?
 
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bukIpower said:
I have a good friend who's a scum fan
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pnuts34 said:
Do you honestly see Wash St beating Washington? That's a reach. Washington may beat them by a lot. That's more realistic, IMO. But I see what you're insinuating with a 3 loss team
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Very possible. Traditional rivalry game and it is on the Palouse. Cougs have been hot and Huskies "vaunted" defense has issues with the pass. And 3 loss USC still could win the PAC south--by far the best PAC team right now. Huskies fans I know are just hoping for the Rose Bowl as a best case scenario (they feel no CFP for the PAC again).
 
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Disclaimer: This will be a fairly long post, those who love College Football will understand.

The problem with College Football right now is divisions. This playoff system will never work as intended as long as divisions are around to prevent the two best teams from competing in their conference championship games. Divisions are utterly pointless. They need to go.

As it is looking today:

The 2016 Big Ten Championship Game will consist of the 2nd and 4th best teams in the overall conference standings.

The 2016 ACC Championship Game will consist of the 1st and 3rd (at best) teams in the overall conference standings.

This...makes no fucking sense. And as long as divisions remain this kind of shit will happen every single season in multiple conferences.

In this world, where the 2 best teams actually play in their conference championship game, this would have given us a TCU/Baylor rematch in 2014 (if they had a conference title game). This would have given us a OSU/MSU rematch in 2015. This would have given us a OSU/PSU rematch this year. Etc.

If you're going to have conference championships, the 2 best teams in the conference should be playing in them. Having divisions makes that impossible.

I've thought long and hard the last few years about how to solve this issue of the 4 best teams never making the playoff. I'm convinced this is the best solution.

This needs to get out there somehow. Divisions are holding back this sport. Someone needs to get on a TV and say what I'm saying.
 
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Zem said:
One of two established precedents will be set--either a 2-loss team or a conference nonchamp will get in.
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With how weak overall both the PAC12 and the Big XII have been, I don't think the committee will have a major problem putting in a deserving team that's not a conference champion. The SEC champ (provided it's Alabama) is a lock, as is the B1G champ (provided it's Ohio State).

How's this for a scenario:

1.) Alabama pounds its last two opponents to finish 12-0 as the clear-cut #1 team in the country.
1a.) Alabama then gets shocked in the SEC CCG by 2-loss Florida (say Hurts gets injured early in the game and leaves, but the injury isn't bad enough to wear he wouldn't be ready for the playoffs).
2.) Buckeyes blow out Sparty and win convincingly over scUM to finish 11-1 and the clear-cut #2, yet the Pedsters also win out to win the division tie-breaker and go to the B1G CCG against Wiscy.
2a.) Wiscy beats the Pedsters in a close game in the B1G CCG.
3.) The Coastal division winner (either Clemson or Louisville) gets upset in the ACC CCG.
4.) The Sooners win the Big XII title, yet still have two losses and the home blowout loss to the Buckeyes
5.) The South division winner (likely Colorado, but still could be USC or Utah) wins the PAC CCG and has (at least) two losses.

So, despite their not being conference champions, how do you possibly keep Alabama and Ohio State out of the playoffs? In fact, in my scenario, since Ohio State didn't play and both Alabama and the #3 team (the ACC Coastal winner) lost, wouldn't Ohio State be #1, despite not even being a conference champion?

The Sooners couldn't get in over Ohio State because they have two losses and got blown out at home in the head-to-head.
The Badgers shouldn't get in over Ohio State because they have two losses and got beat at home in the head-to-head.
The team that upset either Clemson or Louisville in the ACC CCG (either North Carolina or Va Tech) will have at least three losses, and there's no way they get in. If the Coastal team that got upset in the CCG still got ick for the playoffs, it sure as heel won't be over a one-loss Ohio State.
The same deal that applied for the ACC scenario applies to the PAC 12 scenario...no way Colorado, USC, or Utah bumps Ohio State.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
Disclaimer: This will be a fairly long post, those who love College Football will understand.

The problem with College Football right now is divisions. This playoff system will never work as intended as long as divisions are around to prevent the two best teams from competing in their conference championship games. Divisions are utterly pointless. They need to go.

As it is looking today:

The 2016 Big Ten Championship Game will consist of the 2nd and 4th best teams in the overall conference standings.

The 2016 ACC Championship Game will consist of the 1st and 3rd (at best) teams in the overall conference standings.

This...makes no fucking sense. And as long as divisions remain this kind of [Mark May] will happen every single season in multiple conferences.

In this world, where the 2 best teams actually play in their conference championship game, this would have given us a TCU/Baylor rematch in 2014 (if they had a conference title game). This would have given us a OSU/MSU rematch in 2015. This would have given us a OSU/PSU rematch this year. Etc.

If you're going to have conference championships, the 2 best teams in the conference should be playing in them. Having divisions makes that impossible.

I've thought long and hard the last few years about how to solve this issue of the 4 best teams never making the playoff. I'm convinced this is the best solution.

This needs to get out there somehow. Divisions are holding back this sport. Someone needs to get on a TV and say what I'm saying.
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or you just open it up to 8 teams instead of 4.

5 conference champs and 3 at large type of thing
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
With how weak overall both the PAC12 and the Big XII have been, I don't think the committee will have a major problem putting in a deserving team that's not a conference champion. The SEC champ (provided it's Alabama) is a lock, as is the B1G champ (provided it's Ohio State).

How's this for a scenario...
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Yep, that should do it. Like LJB's scenario, we're talking about OSU getting help by means of several upsets, rather than OSU being a lock as long as they win out.
 
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zincfinger said:
Yes. Does anyone see a scenario this year where a 1-loss PacTen champion doesn't get in (seems like it would require that a BigXII champion beats them out)?
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Well I was asking for reassurance but I'll raise my hand... who have they beat ? give me a good Washington win? at home against Stanford?

We won on the road and at night against two teams that would most likely beat the breaks off of Stanford.
 
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bukIpower said:
Well I was asking for reassurance but I'll raise my hand... who have they beat ? give me a good Washington win? at home against Stanford?

We won on the road and at night against two teams that would most likely beat the breaks off of Stanford.
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And our only loss was also on the road, at night--in wet conditions no less--in one of the toughest night venues to play, against a now top-10 team. If we were to play Washington on a neutral field this upcoming Saturday, we'd smoke them like Cheech and Chong smokes a fatty...
 
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