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MissState game will tell a lot about Bama this year.
Another bad day against that type of scheme or progress against their old bugaboo?
Stay tuned
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I dont see how VTech applies. Bama starts at 4, not 16. Bama still has the exact same issues they did against Ole Miss... Ohio State fixed the Oline issue, fixed the entire defense, and got the Frosh QB experience and a gameplan.
Nothing has changed w/Bama. We already knew they had an elite run defense and front 7. And they still have a questionable backfield and QB.
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I didn't realize Henry played QB and CB.
On your 2nd point... and it kinda speaks to your previous claim about SEC having better players (sounds very close to "SEC speed")... the SEC is 0-5 in the last 2 years of major bowl games.
The only P5 conference that hasn't beat them in a major bowl game is the PAC.
There is more parity at the top of the 5 major conferences than ESECPN would have anyone believe.
On your 2nd point... and it kinda speaks to your previous claim about SEC having better players (sounds very close to "SEC speed")... the SEC is 0-5 in the last 2 years of major bowl games.
The only P5 conference that hasn't beat them in a major bowl game is the PAC.
There is more parity at the top of the 5 major conferences than ESECPN would have anyone believe.
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Systems_id
Head Coach
I don't think Miss State has the talent to hang with Alabama this year. Who knows though, they might surprise me. I agree with your overall point though, until I see Alabama shut down a GOOD QB, I'm not buying them. And no way in hell should they jump Ohio State. People want to say "B-b-but look at Florida State last year" but FSU was struggling against shit teams for four FULL quarters in those games. Many of those games you didn't know if FSU would pull it out. Tell me ONE game this year where you actually felt like the Buckeyes were in danger of losing? Northern Illinois? We all know they weren't losing that game. Indiana? Come on now. Sorry, I'm just not buying the SEC hype this year with their garbage QB play and until I see Alabama play and beat a good QB, I'm not buying into them either.
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I'm not buying the ZOMG SEC!! ELEVENTY!! bullshit but to be fair, I think Bama is capable of beating anyone on any given day just like the rest of the good teams in CFB this year. They have as much talent and depth of talent as anyone (including OSU). They have excellent coaching and the added motivation of being knocked off last year. They are an absolute handful for anyone, I don't care what conference or style you play. That said, they have had a weakness over the past 3-4 years that only fanboys are going to just completely dismiss as fixed based on LSU being ranked #2.
OSU also has demonstrated a weakness, against quality RB's coming right at them (as well as mobile QB's to a lesser degree) and let's not lose sight of the fact it was CJ who beat Bama by throwing over the top. We haven't seen JT beat them running the read option and throwing off of it. I'm not saying he couldn't, just pointing out our own hubris to a degree.
Using the "styles make a fight" paradigm an OSU vs Bama rematch could be fascinating especially with the rematch story line and Saban vs Meyer. Easily would be the most marketable match up so as long as both stay playoff "eligible" I wouldn't discount that when it comes time for the final vote.
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Indiana had ball at the Ohio State 9-yard line with the chance to tie the game (or win with 2-point conversion) as time expired. Final pass was incomplete and the Buckeyes held on 34-27. The Buckeyes were definitely in danger of losing that game.
The Minnesota game was still in doubt until the final two minutes of play. Minnesota cut Ohio State's lead to 21-14 with 2:10 left in the game. The Gophers' onside kick attempt was recovered by Ohio State. On 3rd-and-9 with 2:00 minutes left, Cardale Jones found a seam and ran 38-yards for the game-clinching touchdown. Buckeyes win 28-14. The Buckeyes were definitely in danger of losing that game.
Northern Illinois cut Ohio State's lead to 20-13 with 7:46 left in the game. Ohio State had three drives after that, which ended punt, fumble, punt. The defense played tough down the stretch to seal the 7-point victory. The Buckeyes were definitely in danger of losing that game.
Even the Maryland game was tied at 21 early in the third quarter before the Buckeye woke up and blew out the Terps, 49-28.
The good news is that championship teams usually end up winning those games that they are in danger of losing. But to repeat as champions in 2015, the Buckeyes will really have to play better against other championship-quality teams, and outside of Illinois this week the only thing left on the Buckeyes' schedule are championship-quality teams - Michigan State, Michigan, Iowa (possibly), and playoffs (possibly).
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Indiana seemed like a sure loss to me at some point in the second half. Just because they're Indiana, that doesn't mean you get to ignore the fact that we very easily almost lost that game.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Agreed. Until Zeke started running all over them, it seemed like everything was going IU's way that day. And even after Zeke ran all over them, IU had the ball first and goal from the 6, only down 7 points. They get in the end zone there, and you know they would've gone for two. And at that point, you're a two-point conversion away from a loss.
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UpNorth_Buckeye
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Oh, don't get me wrong. OSU is >>>>>>> than Okie State. From what they have done in the first poll (and for the most part last year), current resume is huge. Their one massive game just completely outweighs what OSU has done so far. If both are undefeated at the end of the season, I would expect OSU to be ahead of them. I mean after 9 games I think they will have them ahead of OSU.
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Sure, we've struggled in a few games this year, but anyone comparing us to last year's FSU needs to review what the Criminoles did in the second half of their schedule. Listed below are the results of their last six regular season games along with the ACC title game (margin of victory in parentheses):
10/18/2014 Notre Dame ...... 31 - 27 (+4)
10/30/2014 Louisville ...... 42 - 31 (+11)
11/08/2014 Virginia ........ 34 - 20 (+14)
11/15/2014 Miami (FL) ...... 30 - 26 (+4)
11/22/2014 Boston College .. 20 - 17 (+3)
11/29/2014 Florida ......... 24 - 19 (+5)
12/06/2014 Georgia Tech .... 37 - 35 (+2)
Five of seven wins by five or less points, including their last four wins. Now let's look at what we've done so far in the second half of our schedule this year:
10/17/2015 Penn State .. 38 - 10 (+28)
10/24/2015 Rutgers ..... 49 - 7 (+42)
11/07/2015 Minnesota ... 28 - 14 (+14)
Our closest game was good as their biggest win, at that was with a our starting QB suspended. I'll go out on a limb and say that we should win this weekend's game at Illinois by more than five points...
10/18/2014 Notre Dame ...... 31 - 27 (+4)
10/30/2014 Louisville ...... 42 - 31 (+11)
11/08/2014 Virginia ........ 34 - 20 (+14)
11/15/2014 Miami (FL) ...... 30 - 26 (+4)
11/22/2014 Boston College .. 20 - 17 (+3)
11/29/2014 Florida ......... 24 - 19 (+5)
12/06/2014 Georgia Tech .... 37 - 35 (+2)
Five of seven wins by five or less points, including their last four wins. Now let's look at what we've done so far in the second half of our schedule this year:
10/17/2015 Penn State .. 38 - 10 (+28)
10/24/2015 Rutgers ..... 49 - 7 (+42)
11/07/2015 Minnesota ... 28 - 14 (+14)
Our closest game was good as their biggest win, at that was with a our starting QB suspended. I'll go out on a limb and say that we should win this weekend's game at Illinois by more than five points...
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