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Cleveland Indians (2011 Season)

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on the Ubaldo trade......

he better be damn good......giving up our 2 best pitching prospects for him.......one being a stud lefty prospect (we really need a left handed starter)

i'm gonna verge to say that Pomeranz goes on to be a stud and Ubaldo is merely average for the Tribe, seems like our luck
 
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Reading a lot of stuff from IPI and I agree with pretty much all of it:

One thing to take away from the Ubald-O deal, the FO clearly thinks they're in contention now. That should mean they'll make it an offseason priority to improve, so maybe some decent FA moves are on the horizon. Ubald-O wanted an extension this offseason, so maybe the FO works an extension for him and makes him happy.

Scott Barnes emergence in C-bus makes the loss of White-Pomeranz less painful, plus there's already a lot of SP depth at or near the ML level.

One thing's for sure, we're seeing a FO that is MUCH more aggressive than they've been in years, and they're determined to make this team better/competitive by supplementing the products of the farm with veterans. That makes me happy.
 
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I guess after reading some things and thinking about it the Indians probably made the right move because their window is only good for 2-3 more years.

The only big problem I have with the trade is that we probably could have used one of those guys along with a veteran or a couple prospects to get a right-handed bat. I know we have pitching in the minors but I don't see any good right-handed run producers close to the top level.
 
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LitlBuck;1962706; said:
I guess after reading some things and thinking about it the Indians probably made the right move because their window is only good for 2-3 more years.

The only big problem I have with the trade is that we probably could have used one of those guys along with a veteran or a couple prospects to get a right-handed bat. I know we have pitching in the minors but I don't see any good right-handed run producers close to the top level.
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The trade said to me 2 things: 1, they are very serious about the 3 year window from 2012-2014, and 2, they have more or less conceded this year, because they didn't get a bat. I agree with it though, if they couldn't get a guy like Pence get a top flight pitcher and not a second-hand bat. If they can get one (or two) in the offseason, they will be primed to compete for a division title next year. But Ubaldo would have to go something Doyle Alexander-like (9-0) down the stretch for that trade to really impact this year much.
 
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Bucklion;1962718; said:
The trade said to me 2 things: 1, they are very serious about the 3 year window from 2012-2014, and 2, they have more or less conceded this year, because they didn't get a bat. I agree with it though, if they couldn't get a guy like Pence get a top flight pitcher and not a second-hand bat. If they can get one (or two) in the offseason, they will be primed to compete for a division title next year. But Ubaldo would have to go something Doyle Alexander-like (9-0) down the stretch for that trade to really impact this year much.
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I wouldn't say they've conceded yet. They didn't get a bat yet, but there's still time. I don't know what happened with Ludwick, but I'm glad he ended up elsewhere.
 
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NFBuck;1962733; said:
I wouldn't say they've conceded yet. They didn't get a bat yet, but there's still time. I don't know what happened with Ludwick, but I'm glad he ended up elsewhere.
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If they're in it by the end of next week, they could try and get Carlos Lee through waivers or something, but let's face it, they have 7 at Boston and the Rangers...they could be 6-8 out by then.
 
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Bucklion;1962767; said:
If they're in it by the end of next week, they could try and get Carlos Lee through waivers or something, but let's face it, they have 7 at Boston and the Rangers...they could be 6-8 out by then.
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I suspect they will be. But then again, detroit can never get their shit together long enough to pull away, so who knows...
 
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