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Cleveland Indians (2011 Season)

y0yoyoin;1959104; said:
this season is [censored]ing over
Eh, talk to me when they string a couple good games together. 22-33 since the hot start, looking at this roster, I tend to believe this is the real '11 Tribe...not the 30-15 fluke.

That said, a couple encouraging starts from Carmona...maybe he just needed to sit to unfuck himself a little. The bullpen, however, is very concerning. We do not have the horses to get into shootouts, so when gifted with a good start, they need to hold them. They've looked like ghosts of chicken coups past the last couple weeks. Awesome to see Kipnis get the walkoff. Now PLEASE keep him on the lineup, Acta. FFS...
 
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NFBuck;1959124; said:
Eh, talk to me when they string a couple good games together. 22-33 since the hot start, looking at this roster, I tend to believe this is the real '11 Tribe...not the 30-15 fluke.

That said, a couple encouraging starts from Carmona...maybe he just needed to sit to un[censored] himself a little. The bullpen, however, is very concerning. We do not have the horses to get into shootouts, so when gifted with a good start, they need to hold them. They've looked like ghosts of chicken coups past the last couple weeks. Awesome to see Kipnis get the walkoff. Now PLEASE keep him on the lineup, Acta. FFS...

Good for Kipnis! ASU represent!!!
 
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Like I say, walk with the kids, see what they can do. This is Kip and Chis and Santana's team now, if they make it theirs...time to see what they can do. And, I hate to say, but until I see Carmona do this again...I consider it a fluke.
 
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y0yoyoin;1959099; said:
i think buckeyemania already jumped off the cliff...too bad...this game just got exciting

:lol: shit happens


Pestano has been a bucket of suck lately....his last 10 appearances he has given up 8 runs and his ERA has jumped from 1.47 to 3.08
 
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buckeyemania11;1959193; said:
:lol: shit happens


Pestano has been a bucket of suck lately....his last 10 appearances he has given up 8 runs and his ERA has jumped from 1.47 to 3.08


the thing is, a 3.08 ERA is probably what you can expect from a guy like him. a 1.47 is simply unsustainable for a guy like him. the bullpen is full of a bunch of guys that are average or slightly above average, that all overachieved at the same time.

i will say this, i never thought i'd see the day where i was pining for BJ fucking Upton, but he would actually be a good addition to this team right now.
 
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tsteele316;1959206; said:
i will say this, i never thought i'd see the day where i was pining for BJ fucking Upton, but he would actually be a good addition to this team right now.
Which says A LOT about the state of this lineup right now. Maybe a change of scenery will help him out, but in reality, his numbers aren't much different from the turd Sizemore morphed into over the last 2-3 years: .230-ish avg, 17-20 HR, .720-ish OPS, and a bunch of strikeouts. Though, he's probably a defensive upgrade from the three ring circus trotting out there these days.

In the short-term, he may be a bit of an upgrade, but if he is the player he's showing right now, I'd prefer they just pass unless the price is just too good to pass up.
 
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