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Cleveland Browns (official thread of Masochism 2015)

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AuTX Buckeye said:
Right but you take a chance when there looks like some Very good to elite guys.... this is not that year... is next year .. who knows who comes out.
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according to what I have read next year is not going to be much better than this year so I just do not know how long you wait until you pull the trigger or maybe we should just wait and see what Johnny does.
 
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LitlBuck said:
according to what I have read next year is not going to be much better than this year so I just do not know how long you wait until you pull the trigger or maybe we should just wait and see what Johnny does.
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can always go after a FA QB or try to trade for a proven one who isn't a lifer....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/QB

i already see about 3 or 4 guys on that list i wouldn't mind taking a flyer on over this years crop... if they dont take a flyer on Greyson in the 3rd
 
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LitlBuck said:
sooner or later you have to take a chance… 2016… 2017… 2018:huh:
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Since 1980, here is the list of QB's drafted:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

I will reference the QB's drafted the past 10:

2005: Cleveland drafted Charlie Frye in the 3rd; however they missed on Aaron Rodgers 1(24)
2006: No QB drafted and the only one arguably worth a damn from that class was Jay Cutler.
2007: Cleveland drafted Brady Quinn 1 (22). No other QB worth mentioning that blossumed into anything other than a turd that collected a nice payday.
2008: No QB drafted. Did not draft Flacco 1 (18).
2009: After Matt Stafford 1(1) no QB really got beyond journeyman status (Sanchez, Freeman, Painter)
2010: Cleveland drafted Colt "45" McCoy 3(85). Sam "ACL" Bradford was drafted number 1 overall.
2011: No QB drafted BUT could have drafted Dalton, Kaepernick or Ryan "fuckin'" Mallett without making a trade. None world beaters but better than what they have now and Carolina wasn't going to give up Cam Newton.
2012: Cleveland picked Brandon Weeden 1(21). They could not get Luck and thankfully did not trade to get RGIII. After Weeden though, the following QBs were selected: Russell Wilson 3 (75), Nick Foles 3 (88), Kirk Cousins 4 (102) were selected.
2013: No QB selected. EJ Manuel and Geno Smith were selected as the 1st 2 QBs in the draft. Piles of suck for QB draft.
2014: Johnny Rehab 1(22). Passed on Teddy Bridgewater 1 (32), Derek Carr 2 (36) that showed signs of life in their rookie year.

The Browns had their chances to draft serviceable QBs over the past 10 drafts so taking a chance is not the issue. It's the so called talent evaluators those mucus sacs in Cleveland fail at. IMO, Winston or MM are not fits in the Browns offensive schemes. They would be much better off bringing in Grayson if they must draft a QB. Just my two cents.
 
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Heading to the Bucs draft party tonight (live in Tampa), but will be rocking my Browns gear. Here's to hoping I don't drink myself to death out of disappointment.

Ideally, I want to see us end up with Shelton and Ray tonight. The DL needs a lot of work and we can grab a Strong/DGB/Agholor in the second.
 
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ArmyVet83 said:
Since 1980, here is the list of QB's drafted:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/QB-1980-now.htm

I will reference the QB's drafted the past 10:

2005: Cleveland drafted Charlie Frye in the 3rd; however they missed on Aaron Rodgers 1(24)
2006: No QB drafted and the only one arguably worth a damn from that class was Jay Cutler.
2007: Cleveland drafted Brady Quinn 1 (22). No other QB worth mentioning that blossumed into anything other than a turd that collected a nice payday.
2008: No QB drafted. Did not draft Flacco 1 (18).
2009: After Matt Stafford 1(1) no QB really got beyond journeyman status (Sanchez, Freeman, Painter)
2010: Cleveland drafted Colt "45" McCoy 3(85). Sam "ACL" Bradford was drafted number 1 overall.
2011: No QB drafted BUT could have drafted Dalton, Kaepernick or Ryan "fuckin'" Mallett without making a trade. None world beaters but better than what they have now and Carolina wasn't going to give up Cam Newton.
2012: Cleveland picked Brandon Weeden 1(21). They could not get Luck and thankfully did not trade to get RGIII. After Weeden though, the following QBs were selected: Russell Wilson 3 (75), Nick Foles 3 (88), Kirk Cousins 4 (102) were selected.
2013: No QB selected. EJ Manuel and Geno Smith were selected as the 1st 2 QBs in the draft. Piles of suck for QB draft.
2014: Johnny Rehab 1(22). Passed on Teddy Bridgewater 1 (32), Derek Carr 2 (36) that showed signs of life in their rookie year.

The Browns had their chances to draft serviceable QBs over the past 10 drafts so taking a chance is not the issue. It's the so called talent evaluators those mucus sacs in Cleveland fail at. IMO, Winston or MM are not fits in the Browns offensive schemes. They would be much better off bringing in Grayson if they must draft a QB. Just my two cents.
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Oh my God, I had forgotten what a rampaging comet of suck the early 90s were for QBs...Favre, Bledsoe, and armadillo shit by the skid. Dan McGwire? Marinovich? Rick Mirer? Shuler? I am surprised the league survived that ad premium entertainment, to be honest.
 
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