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Cleveland Browns (2018 Season The NFL is Sorry)

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bukIpower said:
You said it... this team needs STUDS. Barkley being exactly that. Personally I'd take him #1.

NYG and Indy aren't really in the market for a QB so I'm not sure Barkley is there for the Browns at 4.

Josh Allen #1 overall would be horrendous though. Fuck that you take Darnold and then Barkley if he's there if you really have to take a QB first
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You’re right, I said it. RB VALUE can be had later in the draft. This team needs studs THAT AREN’T as easily found later in the draft.

Are you telling me that RBs with high talent and production aren’t found later in the draft all the time? As compared to CB, OL and other positions? Before you throw out names of CB and OL and what not that have been drafted later and turned out to be great, it’s the odds and frequency that I’m talking about. The Browns don’t hit on many picks as is, why go after the one position where their chance is greatest of blind squirrel syndrome later?
 
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Admittedly, I have not seen Josh Allen play, but everything I've read says he is a raw, unpolished project. He might be a fine QB someday, provided he gets the opportunity to watch and learn for a year or more before getting thrown to the wolves. I seem to remember much the same things being said about Kizer a year ago.

I'm thinking that if they're serious about turning things around, they need a guy who can come in and play right away. Anything less than 3 wins will probably get Jackson fired. A new coach will be hired and he'll burn it all down and they'll be starting all over (again) in 2019.

That said, I believe they should consider Denzel Ward at #1 and Billy Price at #4. Then trade up, get back into the mid-late first round and grab Sam Hubbard. At least that would prove that they're learning from the same mistakes the organization keeps making over and over again.
 
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Buckeneye said:
You say Josh Allen would be horrendous, yet follow up with saying to take Darnold?

Did you even watch the Cotton Bowl?
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As Steele pointed out he was on his back all night but still managed to throw for 300+ yards... Darnold reminds me a great deal of Matthew Stafford and there's no denying this kids talent. He's big, he's more mobile than people give him credit for and of course he has very good arm.

His knocks are his decision making and if the Browns for once sat their rookie QB for an entire year or two IMO he could become a very good QB.

As for Barkley? I think he's on the level of a Zeke.. I personally choose Zeke because he is good after contact but Barkley can no doubt be a Fournette, Gurley or Zeke type of impact year 1. Barkley can catch, he's really really sudden, and he's big enough to get a tough yard when needed.

Bottom line this team needs A LOT. So you take players who are safe IMO and not "projects"... IMO, Barkley is a safe bet to be successful and the Browns could use a whole lot of "successful"
 
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Most good QBs make you pay for bringing pressure.

Edit: I will say, without going back and watching again since that night, it seemed like OSU got pressure just from the DL, leaving more men in coverage to make things more difficult. I could be wrong. Still on the “no to Darnold” train.
 
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Buckeneye said:
Well I bet if you went back and watched tape from Luck, Newton, Wilson...etc etc (i remember watching quite a bit of Wentz )- they were pretty unflappable.
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Luck, maybe. Cam Newton was a tuck and run QB, not a good example at all. Wentz was horrible against pressure as a rookie.

Being bad under pressure is a standard knock on most QBs and is generally a weak argument.
 
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tsteele316 said:
Luck, maybe. Cam Newton was a tuck and run QB, not a good example at all. Wentz was horrible against pressure as a rookie.

Being bad under pressure is a standard knock on most QBs and is generally a weak argument.
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Yeah, I just don't know what you could figure out from watching Newton in that offense in that regard. Wilson was in his 4th year starting and was probably 23 years old at Wisconsin...

None of this is to say that I want Darnold. Hell, I'm not sure I want any of them. But there's a difference between pressure and running for your life.
 
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