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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

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After all my bitching, whining and complaining, I like the last two picks. Benjamin has elite speed, which is something none of the Browns existing receivers possess. Now a defense will have to defend more than 15 yards on a pass play. :

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2012/WR

Note: If I had been picking, it would have been Greg Childs Arkansas.

The linebacker was the 5 ranked inside linebacker, (not bad). Ran a 4.68@241 pounds. Sould be an upgrade from the dwarf (Miavia?) we have from USC.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2012/ILB/fortyyard
 
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stowfan;2148784; said:
After all my bitching, whining and complaining, I like the last two picks. Benjamin has elite speed, which is something none of the Browns existing receiver possess. Now a defense will have to defend more than 15 yards on a pass play. :

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2012/WR

Note: If I had been picking, it would have been Greg Childs Arkansas.

The linebacker was the 5 ranked inside linebacker, (not bad). Ran a 4.68@241 pounds. Sould be an upgrade from the dwarf (Miavia?) we have from USC.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2012/ILB/fortyyard
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Agreed, I think the last two picks have been solid. Johnson seems to have good value at the end of the 4th. Everything I'm seeing has him destined for the inside, but Jackson isn't getting any younger.
 
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LitlBuck;2148783; said:
I have always respected you and your sports knowledge but if you dislike the Browns so much why do you keep following and being so negative.
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This is what happens when a long marriage gets closer and closer to divorce. I'm with NFBuck. I'm ready to give up, but it isn't easy to let go. It's much easier to just bitch about the situation.

EDIT: One of the things that keeps sticking in my mind is that Holmgren and Heckert obviously think they're just smarter than everyone else. And of course they should know A LOT more than the fans. But we keep pointing out where they're fucking up and this team keeps sucking. The Shurmur hire was a non-sensical act of unabashed nepotism by Holmgren. It's failed. The Colt McCoy/Montario Hardesty picks have been failures. And the receiving corps continues to be one step below several college teams. Why should I or anyone else trust these assholes and their unorthodox manner of building a team?
 
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OH10;2148792; said:
This is what happens when a long marriage gets closer and closer to divorce. I'm with NFBuck. I'm ready to give up, but it isn't easy to let go. It's much easier to just bitch about the situation.

EDIT: One of the things that keeps sticking in my mind is that Holmgren and Heckert obviously think they're just smarter than everyone else. And of course they should know A LOT more than the fans. But we keep pointing out where they're [censored]ing up and this team keeps sucking. The Shurmur hire was a non-sensical act of unabashed nepotism by Holmgren. It's failed. The Colt McCoy/Montario Hardesty picks have been failures. And the receiving corps continues to be one step below several college teams. Why should I or anyone else trust these assholes and their unorthodox manner of building a team?
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I don't agree and have not agreed with everything that they have done since they have taken over but I don't bitch about everything that they do. I will let it play out and see what happens and I had been a Browns fan much longer than you.
 
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LitlBuck;2148801; said:
I don't agree and have not agreed with everything that they have done since they have taken over but I don't bitch about everything that they do. I will let it play out and see what happens and I had been a Browns fan much longer than you.
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Based solely on age.

Look, I'm not making this a [censored]ing match over who is a better or longer fan. I'm angry. I see only 4-12 and 5-11 seasons in our future. I see our divisional opponents continuing to get better. I see us continuing to act desperate.

The Browns aren't entitled to my support. They aren't entitled to my money. I'm thanking my lucky stars I waited until after the draft to decide on buying season tickets. I think I'll divert my season ticket money to another frustrating and failing franchise this year: Columbus Blue Jackets.

EDIT: Heckert and Holmgren have to know their draft strategy is incredibly unpopular. Their picks will only be defensible if this teams starts winning. If not, then the fans relations for this team will take a decided turn even further downward.
 
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