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Cleveland Browns (2012 season)

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MaxBuck;2271786; said:
If I'm a Browns fan, I like the idea of Dee Milliner opposite Haden. Two lockdown corners who both hit like a train on a downslope.
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I don't like the idea of using another high 1st rounder (and the money that comes with it) on a corner. We have plenty of other holes.
 
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MUBuck;2272282; said:
I don't like the idea of using another high 1st rounder (and the money that comes with it) on a corner. We have plenty of other holes.
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It seems I say this in a Browns thread every year, but this team needs something it can hang its hat on - some unit on the team that they've focused on and made into a top-3 unit in the league. Being just decent in several areas doesn't seem to get you far in the NFL. They're just a couple draft picks away in the secondary from fielding a top unit. They're not as close, but still within striking distance on the D-line too it seems thanks to their recent emphasis on that part of the team in the draft.

I would LOVE to see the Browns get a worthy player opposite Joe Haden. The more guys you can put on an island in coverage, the more freedom you have to be aggressive or exotic with the defensive front.
 
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NFBuck;2272381; said:
Not a Milliner fan. An awful lot of "decent" college WRs get open on him. He's aided by great safeties at bammer. Somebody will fall in love with his measurables, though. I hope it's not the clowns.
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Which leads us to a good value pick in the third round...Robert Lester.

Corner and safety are both positions in the draft that don't have elite talent but are very deep, IMO. There are a lot of opinions out there on this draft class, but I think there will be a lot of quality players available in rounds 4 - 7 this year.

Anyways, in the third round I think the Browns need to take whomever is available at safety amongst Lester, Baccarri Rambo, Kenny Vaccarro, or Matt Elam.

It's interesting how the safety class has reshaped itself over the last 4 weeks. Kenny Vaccarro is the #1 safety on a lot of boards but I'm having trouble believeing that will actually play out. Tony Jefferson from Oklahoma has moved up a lot and Eric Reid has slid a bit.

At the end of the day, I believe one of Rambo, Elam, Jefferson, or Lester will be there. I think any of these guys could come in and start next to T.J. Ward and be a big upgrade.

At corner in the third round I think guys like Desmond Trufant (Washington), Kyle Fuller (Va Tech), or deeper into the draft a guy like Johnny Adams or Brandon McGee would be guys I believe who could come in and start. If Trufant slips to the third round he'd be a steal....good ball skills. If they really want to push the envelope, both Greg Reid and Tyrann Mathieu are interesting options. Reid was a starter as a true freshman at FSU until being arrested twice. In his sophomore year he lead the NCAA in punt return yardage. The Honey Badger is a household name and will probably slide to the third/fourth round. Also a great kick returner and a better coverage guy than I think he is getting credit for nationally. Love his ability to help in run support. I think he and Haden would be damn fun to watch.

Overall, I'm super excited for this draft. Tons of value in the mid-rounds. I really think the Browns can find 3 solid defensive starters if they hit right.

Give me:

Bjoern Warner - round 1
Matt Elam - round 3
Desmond Trufant/Honey Badger - round 4

I'd be over the moon.....
 
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Two things on my mind this morning.

David Shaw. Because apparently Stanford breeds good coaches.

Mike Gillislee. If we let Jackson & Obby walk, I'd take him if he falls to a middle round. Not likely. He has a good combination of size, speed & power. He'll probably be 2nd round. If he doesn't though - I'd consider taking him.
 
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I don't know if a guy like Dri Archer would go early to not be a high pick, but he could be a good 3rd down changeup back like Sproles. I like the mix of Richardson and Hardesty as the 1 and 2, but it seems like they could get someone a little more passing game oriented to be #3.
 
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exhawg;2272804; said:
I don't know if a guy like Dri Archer would go early to not be a high pick, but he could be a good 3rd down changeup back like Sproles. I like the mix of Richardson and Hardesty as the 1 and 2, but it seems like they could get someone a little more passing game oriented to be #3.
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He could replace Cribbs and at this stage could be more valuable than him, quite frankly.
 
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Bucklion;2272823; said:
He could replace Cribbs and at this stage could be more valuable than him, quite frankly.
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Speaking of Cribbs. I think that the biggest help that we can give to our offense next season is to employ a kick returner that will down the fucking ball on kickoffs that are kicked 5 or more yards deep in the endzone.
 
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IronBuckI;2272825; said:
Speaking of Cribbs. I think that the biggest help that we can give to our offense next season is to employ a kick returner that will down the [censored]ing ball on kickoffs that are kicked 5 or more yards deep in the endzone.
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Sucks for Cribbs, because when they changed the rules it basically made him completely expendable. Can't blame the guy for trying to make plays, but yeah, the days of returning kickoffs are more or less over.
 
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