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Cleveland Browns (2010 season)

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NFBuck;1667416; said:
Joe Haden ran 4.58 and 4.57 in the 40 reportedly. Wonder how that effects his draft stock. A lot of folks have him pegged to the Browns...
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It may slide him down in the first round a tad. Reminds me of Malcom Jenkins last year. He still went 13th I believe. The 40 time certainly helped CJ Spiller. Eric Berry also timed very well. As a Browns fan I would be happy with any of these guys.
 
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Buckrock;1667438; said:
It may slide him down in the first round a tad. Reminds me of Malcom Jenkins last year. He still went 13th I believe. The 40 time certainly helped CJ Spiller. Eric Berry also timed very well. As a Browns fan I would be happy with any of these guys.
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Berry won't be there. I have to admit, I'm intriged by Spiller. His style reminds me a lot of Chris Johnson.
 
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Will Haden be running the 40 at the UF pro day as well? I find it very hard to believe he ran that close to a 4.6 - I'll admit he plays a lot faster on the field than that 40 time might indicate. Fact remains, that's a huge hit in his draft stock.
 
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jlb1705;1667447; said:
Toby Gerhart ran a faster 40 than Haden, didn't he?

Gerhart would be a big hit in CLE with his running style if people could get past thinking of him as another Tommy Vardell.
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That's the problem and I admit it gives me pause too. Their numbers were eerily similar in college and they both feasted on weaker Pac-10 defenses. I think he could turn out to be a solid short yardage option as a pro, but personally, if the Browns look to go RB, I'd prefer Spiller because of his HR ability and elusiveness.
Buckeneye;1667461; said:
Will Haden be running the 40 at the UF pro day as well? I find it very hard to believe he ran that close to a 4.6 - I'll admit he plays a lot faster on the field than that 40 time might indicate. Fact remains, that's a huge hit in his draft stock.
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I'd assume so, and I'd also assume the time will be much better as team pro days are notoriously player friendly...
 
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NFBuck;1667441; said:
Berry won't be there. I have to admit, I'm intriged by Spiller. His style reminds me a lot of Chris Johnson.
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Everyone seems to forget about James Davis. He looked good before he got hurt. I don't think they need to be blowing a first rounder on Spiller. Too many other needs.

It''s not sexy but there are several good tackles available (Davis,Bulaga,etc)...drafting a good RT could put this OL in great shape for years.
 
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BuckNut65;1667496; said:
Everyone seems to forget about James Davis. He looked good before he got hurt. I don't think they need to be blowing a first rounder on Spiller. Too many other needs.

It''s not sexy but there are several good tackles available (Davis,Bulaga,etc)...drafting a good RT could put this OL in great shape for years.
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Davis looked good in preseason against the Lions. I don't put much stock in that. I'd prefer to address other needs too, but, if they were to pick Spiller, I don't think I'd be too upset. The kid is just electric and we really don't have a premier back. If we're going to a WC offense, his receiving ability would be an asset too.

As for the OL, I like Bulaga, but not too sure he (or a RT for that matter) is worth this high a pick. Davis has "bust" written all over him. He showed up to the combine out of shape and his drive has been questioned.

With so many picks this year, there's a lot more "wiggle room" with that top pick. Sure you want to address those biggest needs, but with a fairly deep draft, if you feel you can plug some of them later on taking a guy like Spiller wouldn't be all that bad IMO.
 
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NFBuck;1667476; said:
That's the problem and I admit it gives me pause too. Their numbers were eerily similar in college and they both feasted on weaker Pac-10 defenses. I think he could turn out to be a solid short yardage option as a pro, but personally, if the Browns look to go RB, I'd prefer Spiller because of his HR ability and elusiveness.
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I said this during the season and I'll say it again: Chris Johnson just made CJ Spiller a lot of money. I think he'll end up being the first RB taken, and I don't think the Browns should be using the #7 pick on him. Now, if they package some of their extra picks or trade down again or something, that might be a different story.

I've also done more reading on Vardell (I was a youngster when he was drafted) and his similarities to Gerhart are creepy. Even their measurables are practically the same - Vardell was actually .04 faster in the 40 than Gerhart. I honestly don't know much about Vardell's running style in college, but having seen Gerhart, I just get the feeling that he can be a poor man's Beanie Wells. Most importantly while we're comparing and contrasting, nobody would be talking about using a top-10 pick in Gerhart like was used to take Vardell. The chatter I'm seeing is that Gerhart's combine performance MAY have moved him into a 2nd round position. Despite the creepy similarities, I think he might be worth a look on Day 2 this year.
 
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Just thinking about this today.

With Haden's 40 time, what are the possibilites that the Browns now in fact trade down?

Jacksonville is @ 10

Miami @ 12

Seattle and NYG @ 14, 15 respectively.

I"m not sure which teams would show the top interest, but I"m sure we could secure an extra pick with the trade down.

I'm curious because if we do so, I think the likelyhood of taking Spiller increases. We then take Earl Thomas with our pick @ 41 ( if he's available)

I"m trying to remember that CB's name from Bama' - can somebody help me with this?

One more thing to, I don't think our need at OLB last year just dissapeared overnight. So what I'm trying to say is, if Thaddeus is available in the later part of the 2nd round - we should take him :biggrin:
 
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