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Cleveland Browns (2009 Season)

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billmac91;1523077; said:
I don't care who the QB was last year....when gameplans are destroyed for the QB because receivers CANNOT catch the ball, any QB will struggle. I wonder what Peyton Manning's career statistics look like in 3rd and long situations?

How many game-changing plays were blown due to drops? I can think of at least 3 games the Browns might win if Edwards doesn't drop a critical first down, a 60 yard bomb, or a sideline catch.

I don't really care who wins the QB battle...I just think its wrong to look at Anderson's numbers last year and conclude he sucks or isn't capable. Just as it is fair to critique the schedule when he was lighting it up. Then again, that season it seemed Edwards and Winslow were making a lot more plays. It helps when you're second and short due to a solid run game and receivers holding onto the ball. EVERY QB in the league would look miserable when facing 3 & 10 all game.....
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Now to answer your question or anything but I just would like to see Quinn get a chance because we will take a big time salary cap hit on him after this season. We have no idea what he can do and maybe he would've went 16-0 with a schedule that Anderson played. Maybe the dropped passes are because the receivers don't like the way Anderson throws the ball. I can't think of some instances where he led a couple guys right into the kill zone and wide receivers don't like their heads taken off. Sure, a running game would help but it would help any QB and we don't have Peyton Manning or whoever.
 
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MUBuck;1523086; said:
Here are some DA stats to think about.

2008
On 1st down: 52-105 (49.5%), 3 TD, 4 INT
On 3rd down: 41-90 (45.6%), 3 TD, 4 INT

2007
On 1st down: 121-206 (58.7%), 13 TD, 12 INT
On 3rd down: 84-159 (52.8%), 10 TD, 6 INT

I hear what you're saying about the receivers, but the fact remains that DA is simply too careless with the ball to lead a team to the playoffs (or a winning record for that matter).
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...and there it is folks. Make all your arguments about dropped passes (I agree, they don't help), but those don't directly lead to careless interceptions.
 
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jlb1705;1523082; said:
Furrey at SS? Oh boy.

I'm all for Robo seeing the field earlier, but that sounds like another Browns disaster.

Not to mention Furry has been the most consistent receiver on the team IMO in the preseason games.
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Not to fear he has done it before:)

Cleveland.com

If injuries turn secondary's future fuzzy, it might be Furrey to the rescue: Browns Insider
by Tony Grossi/Plain Dealer Reporter
Tuesday August 25, 2009, 6:47 PM

BEREA, Ohio -- Remember all that talk in March about Josh Cribbs perhaps adding to his multiple roles as a fill-in at safety?

Well, the receiver now being mentioned as an emergency safety is Mike Furrey.

The discussion came up as a result of Brodney Pool missing his second practice in a row after suffering a possible concussion in the Detroit game. Pool had at least three concussions previously. His absence obviously has a domino effect on the perilous depth at the position.

Mike Adams moved into Pool's starting spot. In the No. 1 dime defense fielded on Tuesday, cornerback Hank Poteat played safety.

Coach Eric Mangini, who force-fed New England receiver Troy Brown into a nickel back role one season, casually mentioned that Furrey has done the same at safety. It was one of those "You're kidding, right?" moments.
Sure enough, Furrey disclosed that he played 11 games at safety for St. Louis in 2005.

With some previous experience in the defensive secondary, Browns receiver Mike Furrey isn't afraid of filling in there in an emergency."I had four picks and one returned for a touchdown," he said. "I still don't know how that happened. Some day I'll reflect on it."

Furrey actually led the Rams in interceptions that year. His touchdown return was for 67 yards. His emergency role came about because the Rams had injuries at safety and had a surplus at receiver. Furrey played two-way football in the defunct Arena League in 2002 and '03.

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LitlBuck;1523081; said:
Not to change the subject or anything but there are rumblings that Pool might have another concussion. If that is true, I think he might be done for the season. Not sure if that is an NFL rule or not because of the number of concussions he has sustained. Looks like Mike Adams will be the starter at SS with Mike Furey being a possible backup which might get Robiskie on the field sooner.
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jlb1705;1523082; said:
Furrey at SS? Oh boy.

I'm all for Robo seeing the field earlier, but that sounds like another Browns disaster.

Not to mention Furry has been the most consistent receiver on the team IMO in the preseason games.
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Said today in the CPD in another article that Poteat is playing safety in dime situations and Furrey would be an "emergency" backup. Pool did apparentyl have another concussion, but no word on his condition (apparently he did not ride the Hart Bike in practice like the other injured players did though.)
 
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MUBuck;1523086; said:
Here are some DA stats to think about.

2008
On 1st down: 52-105 (49.5%), 3 TD, 4 INT
On 3rd down: 41-90 (45.6%), 3 TD, 4 INT

2007
On 1st down: 121-206 (58.7%), 13 TD, 12 INT
On 3rd down: 84-159 (52.8%), 10 TD, 6 INT

I hear what you're saying about the receivers, but the fact remains that DA is simply too careless with the ball to lead a team to the playoffs (or a winning record for that matter).
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If we could combine the best traits of Quinn (mental edge/touch) and DA (arm strength and deep ball accuracy), we'd have Warren Moon.

Seriously.

I don't think either one is the answer at this point. But I DO think a strong running game might lessen the impact of the weaknesses either one has but I don't know if Jamal can do it and I don't think James Davis is going to see the field enough early on to make a huge impact.
 
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I really think this ground game is gonna be awful this year. Lewis looks old and slow, I don't think they'll rely too much on Davis given his youth and Harrison is pretty unproven as well.

My God, now Vince Young is picking them apart. :lol:
 
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