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Assuming Pioli comes aboard as GM, here's my current wishlist for next HC...
1. Cowher (I know, not happening...it's a wishlist)
2. Shanahan (knows how to get the best out of the talent he has and is a proven winner, recent failures a bit of a concern though)
3. Josh McDaniels (young, energetic, brilliant offensive mind, pair him with a good DC)
4. Steve Spagnuolo (architect of Giants beastly defenses)
5. Jim Fassel (runs a tight ship, has won in the past)
6. Jim Schwartz (another bright defensive mind with a good coaching pedigree)
7. Mangini (I think he got a raw deal in NY and is a pretty damn good coach)
8. Billick (Hated him with the Ratbirds, but he won a lot of games with marginal to bad offensive teams)
names I've heard and want to avoid: Martz, Marty.
1. Cowher (I know, not happening...it's a wishlist)
2. Shanahan (knows how to get the best out of the talent he has and is a proven winner, recent failures a bit of a concern though)
3. Josh McDaniels (young, energetic, brilliant offensive mind, pair him with a good DC)
4. Steve Spagnuolo (architect of Giants beastly defenses)
5. Jim Fassel (runs a tight ship, has won in the past)
6. Jim Schwartz (another bright defensive mind with a good coaching pedigree)
7. Mangini (I think he got a raw deal in NY and is a pretty damn good coach)
8. Billick (Hated him with the Ratbirds, but he won a lot of games with marginal to bad offensive teams)
names I've heard and want to avoid: Martz, Marty.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Another good Pioli Article....
Why Pioli-to-Browns will happen
Scott Pioli would be a good fit as general manager of the Cleveland Browns, where he was an employee from 1992 to '95.
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The NFL's hiring and firing season can be a confusing swirl of speculation, conjecture and misinformation, but sometimes a marriage of team and candidate just makes too much sense not to happen. Like Scott Pioli becoming the next general manager of the Cleveland Browns.
At this point, all we definitively know is Pioli, New England's vice president of player personnel, has been given permission by the Patriots to interview for the Browns GM job, and that Cleveland owner Randy Lerner has made landing Pioli his top, full-steam-ahead priority. Though a specific timetable for Pioli's interview with the Browns is not yet known, I'd say any minute now is a reasonably accurate window. And it won't take long for the two sides to strike a deal. In fact, if Pioli is not the Browns new decision-maker by the end of the week, I'd be shocked.
My confidence in this particular case of match-making is based on many factors, not the least of which is these two: After years of being considered one of the league's best general manager candidates, Pioli is finally ready to make the jump from New England, should the right offer come along. And the Browns, after the debacle of their 2008 season, are most definitely ready to welcome a savior. That's why Lerner won't stop at anything to ensure that he makes Pioli "the right offer.''
Cleveland is by no means the perfect job for Pioli. I believe he'd rather be hired by an NFC team, if only to avoid the specter of competing against both Bill Belichick's Patriots and his father-in-law's Dolphins (Pioli is married to the daughter of Bill Parcells). But Pioli can't control the fact the short-sighted Lions opted to not even give him a phone call before they promoted Martin Mayhew to general manager Monday, or that St. Louis will go with Billy Devaney as a one-year GM while the franchise remains for sale.
When all is said and done with the game of general manager musical chairs unfolding in the NFL, Pioli is expected to interview with the Browns and probably the Chiefs, the other team that has him atop its wish list. And while Kansas City may be attractive to him given the Chiefs' patient and stable ownership situation, plus the easier assignment of competing in the AFC West, there's something that convinces me Cleveland will be Pioli's new place of employment.
Pioli's ties to the city can't be underestimated. He cut his NFL teeth working for the old Browns as a personnel assistant from 1992 to '95, on what turned out to be something of an all-star front office cast led by Belichick as head coach. He likes Cleveland, has a close friendship with Indians general manager Mark Shapiro and has long considered restoring the Browns to prominence one of the most intriguing challenges in the NFL.
It wouldn't hurt, of course, that Pioli might bring the Browns new head coach along with him from New England. Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is a native of Canton, Ohio, and Pioli and he as a package deal would mean another key hire steeped in the Patriot Way. That would allow the new Browns regime to hit the ground running without much of a transition or learning curve.
My guess is at this point Lerner really only has to sell Pioli on Lerner. The two know each other, but not well, and what each man has to determine in the course of an interview is how quickly a comfort zone develops between them. Because there's plenty of work to be done in Cleveland, where Pioli would be granted autonomy in personnel decision-making and likely command a salary in excess of $3 million per year.
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Entire article: Why Pioli-to-Browns will happen - Don Banks - SI.com
Why Pioli-to-Browns will happen
Scott Pioli would be a good fit as general manager of the Cleveland Browns, where he was an employee from 1992 to '95.
Icon SMI
The NFL's hiring and firing season can be a confusing swirl of speculation, conjecture and misinformation, but sometimes a marriage of team and candidate just makes too much sense not to happen. Like Scott Pioli becoming the next general manager of the Cleveland Browns.
At this point, all we definitively know is Pioli, New England's vice president of player personnel, has been given permission by the Patriots to interview for the Browns GM job, and that Cleveland owner Randy Lerner has made landing Pioli his top, full-steam-ahead priority. Though a specific timetable for Pioli's interview with the Browns is not yet known, I'd say any minute now is a reasonably accurate window. And it won't take long for the two sides to strike a deal. In fact, if Pioli is not the Browns new decision-maker by the end of the week, I'd be shocked.
My confidence in this particular case of match-making is based on many factors, not the least of which is these two: After years of being considered one of the league's best general manager candidates, Pioli is finally ready to make the jump from New England, should the right offer come along. And the Browns, after the debacle of their 2008 season, are most definitely ready to welcome a savior. That's why Lerner won't stop at anything to ensure that he makes Pioli "the right offer.''
Cleveland is by no means the perfect job for Pioli. I believe he'd rather be hired by an NFC team, if only to avoid the specter of competing against both Bill Belichick's Patriots and his father-in-law's Dolphins (Pioli is married to the daughter of Bill Parcells). But Pioli can't control the fact the short-sighted Lions opted to not even give him a phone call before they promoted Martin Mayhew to general manager Monday, or that St. Louis will go with Billy Devaney as a one-year GM while the franchise remains for sale.
When all is said and done with the game of general manager musical chairs unfolding in the NFL, Pioli is expected to interview with the Browns and probably the Chiefs, the other team that has him atop its wish list. And while Kansas City may be attractive to him given the Chiefs' patient and stable ownership situation, plus the easier assignment of competing in the AFC West, there's something that convinces me Cleveland will be Pioli's new place of employment.
Pioli's ties to the city can't be underestimated. He cut his NFL teeth working for the old Browns as a personnel assistant from 1992 to '95, on what turned out to be something of an all-star front office cast led by Belichick as head coach. He likes Cleveland, has a close friendship with Indians general manager Mark Shapiro and has long considered restoring the Browns to prominence one of the most intriguing challenges in the NFL.
It wouldn't hurt, of course, that Pioli might bring the Browns new head coach along with him from New England. Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is a native of Canton, Ohio, and Pioli and he as a package deal would mean another key hire steeped in the Patriot Way. That would allow the new Browns regime to hit the ground running without much of a transition or learning curve.
My guess is at this point Lerner really only has to sell Pioli on Lerner. The two know each other, but not well, and what each man has to determine in the course of an interview is how quickly a comfort zone develops between them. Because there's plenty of work to be done in Cleveland, where Pioli would be granted autonomy in personnel decision-making and likely command a salary in excess of $3 million per year.
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Entire article: Why Pioli-to-Browns will happen - Don Banks - SI.com
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2009 Opponents...
Cleveland Browns | 2009 opponents
Schedule looks much more easy to navigate than this season's.
Cleveland Browns | 2009 opponents
Schedule looks much more easy to navigate than this season's.
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3074326
Assistant to the Head Coach
Thought you guys might have a good laugh at this.
The NFL Forums
..pretty sure he's being serious. If you read the thread, he throws out a couple other ridiculous opinions.
The NFL Forums
..pretty sure he's being serious. If you read the thread, he throws out a couple other ridiculous opinions.
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Taking the team in the right direction? Is this douchebag fucking serious? They sucked before all the injuries and the team fucking quit on him. Some people shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
I have to conclude this guy is a fucking retard.
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3074326
Assistant to the Head Coach
NFBuck;1367071; said:
Yup. He later says something that kind of makes it sound like part of the reason Savage got fired was because he is Christian, and Lerner is Jewish.
He's a Raider fan. I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
Here's what he said, after he didn't pick up my blatant sarcasm (I said that the Browns were racist against both blacks and whites, and that Savage was fired because he was white).
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And psst... it's a secret but they will announce Jim Tressel as the new coach next Tuesday. I heard it from the UPS guy so it must be true. 
LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I don't know if I would put it Shanahan that high on my list. I really don't know when he has done lately but the AFC West has not always been the most powerful conference plus he won quite a few of those games were Elway. I would also put Schwartz a little higher on my list. I have heard that he wants the job been used to work for the Browns. McDaniels is awfully young and that just makes me wonder. However, saying all of that, if Pioli becomes the GM I think that Mangini will be the new HC.NFBuck;1367059; said:
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CookyPuss
Screw Blue
I just hope they don't make the mistake of hiring some offensive or defensive guru. Being a great coordinator and HC are 2 different things. I wouldn't mind a retread like Marty or Skeletor for that reason. They deserately need someone in that job who can make the trains run on time.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
That and...
I'm also weary of hiring some 'hot name' college coach, as mentioned in the previous article (Ferentz
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Buckrock
Hall of Fame
OHSportsFan9;1367250; said:That and...
I'm also weary of hiring some 'hot name' college coach, as mentioned in the previous article (Ferentz
Ferentz is a good football coach. Unfortunately he has not been hot for years. Urban Meyer is the hot college name being considered. Pioli if named GM would do the picking. His relationship with Ferentz stated above would get him a look.
I think the Browns are looking for a HC with previous experience or a Top name Coordinator (Ryan, Schwatz etc.). Not a college guy. It will get interesting.
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