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Cincinnati Bearcats (Juggalos official thread of Faygo)

this is why you don't belong in the BCS. you don't even understand how it works.
some idiot UC fan said:
I'm thinking BK is going to waffle all week and then at about 11:30 am ET on Saturday is going to give the team their pre-game pep talk including a special private announcement that he has re-upped on his contract and will definitely be coaching them next year. The inspired Bearcats then go on to destroy Pitt and end up in Pasadena.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1610604; said:
this is why you don't belong in the BCS. you don't even understand how it works.

The BCS Championship game is in Pasadena this year, fwiw. It rotates sites between the four BCS game stadiums.

I'm guessing this is your quibble with the idiot poster? Not that it detracts from their idiocy, just sayin'.

Edit: on second thought, I think you know that - you're just pointing out that they won't end up in the NCG, no matter what they do.
 
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Honor&Glory;1610098; said:
yes...because if it is on Wiki...it must be true. :biggrin:

"In 1916, construction began on a permanent brick-and-concrete stadium structure, which was completed, section-by-section, as funds were raised"

The construction began in 1916 but was not complete until 1924...something about fundraising...I'm sure if you were around then you'd have complained about it on every ticker wire you could get your hands on. :biggrin:

University of Cincinnati Official Athletic Site

Whoa! What makes you think Cincy had the first horseshoe?! Your "completed stadium" was little more than bleachers and not a horseshoe. It seated only 12,000 when completed in 1924, after Ohio Stadium. Do you have a picture showing that it is a horseshoe? What I find says differently.

University of Cincinnati Official Athletic Site

Nippert Stadium Timeline

1895-Arch Carson introduced a plan to build a stadium on a site in Burnet Woods.

1902-Cincinnati played its first game on Carson Field. Wood bleachers were built on the surrounding hillside.
1909-Lights were first used because the large number of co-op students on the team could practice only at night.

1916-Funds to build a permanent brick and concrete structure were made available by a city bond issue.

1923-UC defeated Kentucky Wesleyan, 17-0, in the first night collegiate football game in the Midwest.

1923-James Gamble donated $250,000 in memory of his grandson, Jimmy Nippert, to complete the stadium.

1924-The completed James Gamble Nippert Stadium was dedicated. Capacity is 12,000.


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Nippert Field in the 1920s. Not a horseshoe.


1936-Carson Field was lowered 12 feet to allow the capacity to expand to 24,000.

1954-Reed Shank Pavilion was completed to boost the capacity to 28,000.


Here is the history of Ohio Stadium, which was the subject of a national fundraising effort and seated 66,210 when it opened. Attendance at the first TSUN game that year (1922) was 71,138.



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGqFbJtPOA"]YouTube - A tribute to Ohio Stadium, history and now.[/ame]

A more detailed history:

The Athletic Board took notice of this situation May 28, 1913. At this board meeting they authorized the appointment of a committee ?to confer with President Thompson for discussion of the plan of moving the athletic field to a new place.? The minutes also show that a committee reported that ?it does not favor any extensive improvement upon the present equipment? although it was for keeping ?the present equipment in repair.? This was the birth of the idea of the Ohio Stadium, but nearly a decade was to elapse before it was to become a reality.

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A preliminary discussion of the idea of a new stadium was under way soon after the close of the 1916 championship season. At a February 3, 1917 board meeting the sole topic of discussion was ?the plans for the new stadium.?
In the summer of 1918 the idea of a new athletic plant and stadium was still germinating. August 13, 1918, Prof. Thomas French reported on ?the new plans of Architect Smith for the new Athletic Field and Stadium.? It was Architect Howard Dwight Smith, 1907, who finally drew the plans for the horseshoe-shaped, double deck stadium. His unique design him the gold medal of the American Institute of Architects for ?excellence in public work.?


Money was a large problem and various ideas to raise funds were suggested. In the end it developed that a stadium could be financed in only two ways: by public subscription and by profits from intercollegiate athletics, chiefly football. The plan for a stadium campaign which, in effect, would take the public into partnership, began to take shape toward the end of 1919. Public interest in Ohio State football reached unprecedented heights in Columbus and throughout Ohio after a third highly successful football season. It was now quite clear that there was a need for a much greater seating capacity and improved playing facilities than Ohio Field could afford.
The resulting Stadium campaign, finally put into action in the fall of 1920, was the solution. The Stadium campaign capitalized on the enthusiasm generated by the great football successes achieved in 1916, 1917, 1919 and 1920.


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Ground was broken for the Stadium in formal ceremonies August 3, 1921. Governor Harry L. Davis wielded the first shovel, followed by President Thompson, Chairman Summer and a multiple officials and campus and stadium committee dignitaries. A crowd of 2,500 was present along with the regimental band. Sparked by the national and University colors, The audience dutifully sang ?America? and ?Carmen Ohio.?

Completion date for the Stadium was set for October 1, 1922. In concurrence with the erection of the Stadium, the University let a contract for the new bridge and roadway over the Olentangy just north of the Stadium at a cost of $117,900.

The University trustees, meanwhile, at their April 25, 1921 meeting adopted an important resolution under which the Stadium was to be built and fixing the responsibility of the Athletic Board. By now the project was known officially as the Ohio Stadium. More than $1,000,000 having been raised, it was now up to the building committee to see the project to completion. It was stipulated, among other things, that the University itself was to incur no financial obligation in connection with the Stadium and that the cost of the structure was not to exceed $930,000. But that was not to be, before it was completed, Ohio Stadium was to cost twice that much.

The University trustees formally approved the plans and specifications of the Stadium at May 25, 1921. The building committee directed the engineers to submit plans to contractors for bids to be opened June 17. The contract for the construction of the stadium was let to the E.H. Latham Co., of Columbus, with their bid of $1,341,017. The contract was approved July 7. The campaign itself was over, but the books were still open as there was a gap of $300,000 between the contract price and the amount pledged. All expenses of the campaign were paid by the Athletic Department so that every campaign dollar pledged could go into the Stadium.

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The design finally adopted called for a double-decked, horseshoe-shaped structure on a north-south axis lying in the bottom lands bordering the Olentangy River.

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Steady progress was made on the Stadium construction. Prof. French presented the report of the Stadium engineer January 19, 1922. A motion was adopted that ?the necessary steps be taken along the lines of the special committee of the Stadium Building Committee to insure completion of the Stadium by October 1, 1922.?

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Original capacity: 66,210
Attendance for first game against TSUN in 1922: 71,138

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If UC gets to a BCS game.. I think Kelly should coach it. Finish what you started. It'd be the biggest game in school history, and his biggest game as a coach. Coaching a low-tier bowl at ND would not compare.

But, there's the recruiting/returning players angle too. If he leaves UC and they end up losing, does that burn any bridges in the recruiting world? Might not - I have no idea.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1610443; said:
I am not a candidate for the Alabama job.

:wink2:

You and Tiger Woods...don't you realize the pressures of celebrity life. Don't you know we track the high profile guys like you?

I call BS!

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Honor&Glory;1611427; said:
If UC loses to Pitt on Saturday,

Charlotte here we come...

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University of Cincinnati Official Athletic Site

The Big East's bowl tie-ins suck. Still not sure how the #2 team is supposed to make the Gator Bowl but will be passed over by the #3 team but at least it is the last year for the contract.

Eh, you play in a lousy conference and don't win it (the assumption being made here), you go to a lousy bowl. Not sure what the beef is here.
 
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buckeyesin07;1611457; said:
Eh, you play in a lousy conference and don't win it (the assumption being made here), you go to a lousy bowl. Not sure what the beef is here.

His beef is UC will be relegated to 3rd bowl selection if they lose to Pittsburgh. The Gator bowl has all the leverage because they're not going to be affiliated with the Big East after this season. So a 10-1 team that beat WVU and is the Big East Co-Champion will be passed over for the Mountaineers so they can stage the Bowden Farewell Bowl.

It's the cold hard reality of the Bowl structure. Money talks and UC doesn't have the prestige or fan base necessary to garner an at large BCS bid.
 
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Pimpinnati;1611469; said:
His beef is UC will be relegated to 3rd bowl selection if they lose to Pittsburgh. The Gator bowl has all the leverage because they're not going to be affiliated with the Big East after this season. So a 10-1 team that beat WVU and is the Big East Co-Champion will be passed over for the Mountaineers so they can stage the Bowden Farewell Bowl.

It's the cold hard reality of the Bowl structure. Money talks and UC doesn't have the prestige or fan base necessary to garner an at large BCS bid.

When I said "Not sure what the beef is here," I meant "you have nothing to complain about" not "I don't understand your argument." Poor choice of words on my part.
 
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