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Chris Holtmann (ex-tOSU Bball coach, HC at DePaul)

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buckeyemania11 said:
Recruiting "fell off" but it wasn't a train wreck (up until like last year)

They werent pulling in UK type classes but they were still landing decently high rated players.
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NFBuck said:
He was still pulling in good recruits as recently as 2015, but the development hasn't been there for a few years now.
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Not to mention that 2015 class mostly left OSU by 2016, so I would add "retention" to "development" on the list of issues.

Regardless, Thad's overall run was a good one. I don't want to dissect it here, so I'm moving on to Holtmann.
 
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I don't expect to see Archie Miller fall on his face at IU, but I agree with the sentiment that we can go toe-to-toe with him with this hire. Recruiting at Ohio State has always been a tenuous proposal, but we have lots of curb appeal that can still be utilized as others said. This winter, we should be better than we would have been without the hire, and I think that's as much as you can ask in the short term. I have no idea what the McDermott crap was about, but like Max said....we ended up where we need to be.

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ORD_Buckeye said:
Despite the mid-week panic, GS did have a solid hire in place by the end of the week. Not the whale that many thought was in his back pocket, but I'm pretty happy with the direction men's b-ball will be taking. He has some big shoes to fill though, and I hope people aren't expecting a Thad-5 kind of launch.
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Yeah, I agree. Not a whale, but I think he is a solid hire who needs to be given a chance to succeed.

Re: The contract is for eight years and a total of roughly $24 million.

Just sayin': Holtmann's final legacy at Ohio State shouldn't even count the first couple years. It's going to take him a couple years to get "his players" in here. It's no secret that he is taking over a team where "the cupboard is really bare". With the current roster, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ohio State predicted to finish 15th in the B1G for the 2017/2018 season (and it is only a 14 team conference).
 
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BVistahC said:
Reading this Gregg Doyel story in the Indy Star and it seems like someone (or a group of someones) was back-channeling Chris Holtmann early (like in the Winter/Spring).

http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...-jobs-you-have-take-ohio-state-one/384065001/

I'm perfectly fine with sending smoke signals early and to always be prepared.


He wants to be here. Now lets go win.
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Yeah, I think Gene probably thought he had him earlier this week and he tried to use McDermott as leverage to get Holtmann to back off some contract demands. Didn't work. But we got the guy we wanted. I have no doubt about that. And it should be a great transition from the best coach this program has had in my lifetime. Thank you Coach Matta. Let's do this Coach Holtmann.
 
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OH10 said:
Yeah, I think Gene probably thought he had him earlier this week and he tried to use McDermott as leverage to get Holtmann to back off some contract demands. Didn't work. But we got the guy we wanted. I have no doubt about that. And it should be a great transition from the best coach this program has had in my lifetime. Thank you Coach Matta. Let's do this Coach Holtmann.
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very plausible and if that's the case I offer a full apology to GS

I'm often wrong, not hard to admit it

Now, like someone above said...let's go win.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
and schrage. few so-called mid-major assistants have a pedigree that comes close to his.

being a columbus native whose reputation for recruiting is good, though, pedon would be awesome.
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Someone on a Butler basketball forum is claiming that:
Word is that entire staff is likely to follow Holtmann to OSU, aside from one possibly being promoted.

I believe Willis also said earlier this was a part of the contract negotiations.
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Posted this over in the Search thread, figure it fits here.

Looking over their season last year, Butler beat some big dogs, and did unbelievably well against some strong competition. Listed with their final RPI ranking...

(48) Northwestern W 70-68
(66) Bucknell W 86-60
(42) Vanderbilt W 76-66
(5) Arizona W 69-65
(96) at Utah W 68-59
(13) Cincinnati W 75-65
(82) Indiana W 83-78
(45) Vermont W 81-69
(62) Providence W 78-61
(4) Villanova W 66-58
(32) at Creighton L 64-75
(27) Xavier W 83-78
(67) Marquette W 88-80
(46) at Seton Hall W 61-54
(32) Creighton L 67-76
(67) at Marquette W 68-65
(62) at Providence L 65-71
(4) at Villanova W 74-66
(27) at Xavier W 88-79
(46) Seton Hall L 64-70

POSTSEASON
(27) Xavier L 57-62
(71) Winthrop W 76-64
(34) Middle Tennessee State W 74-65
(1) North Carolina L 80-92

That's:
18-6 against RPI top 100 teams.
11-5 against RPI top 50 teams.
4-1 against RPI top 25 teams.
2-1 against RPI top 5 teams.

All with a team that was unranked going into the season and many against rosters with higher rated talent, recruiting-wise.

In one year, he beat the #4 team (Arizona), a team that spent much of the year #1 (Villanova) x2, an Elite-8 team (Xavier) x2, and 14 teams that played in the tournament. He went 6-2 against AP top-25 teams.

Anybody question his coaching ability?
 
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NFBuck said:
Posted this over in the Search thread, figure it fits here.

Looking over their season last year, Butler beat some big dogs, and did unbelievably well against some strong competition. Listed with their final RPI ranking...

(48) Northwestern W 70-68
(66) Bucknell W 86-60
(42) Vanderbilt W 76-66
(5) Arizona W 69-65
(96) at Utah W 68-59
(13) Cincinnati W 75-65
(82) Indiana W 83-78
(45) Vermont W 81-69
(62) Providence W 78-61
(4) Villanova W 66-58
(32) at Creighton L 64-75
(27) Xavier W 83-78
(67) Marquette W 88-80
(46) at Seton Hall W 61-54
(32) Creighton L 67-76
(67) at Marquette W 68-65
(62) at Providence L 65-71
(4) at Villanova W 74-66
(27) at Xavier W 88-79
(46) Seton Hall L 64-70

POSTSEASON
(27) Xavier L 57-62
(71) Winthrop W 76-64
(34) Middle Tennessee State W 74-65
(1) North Carolina L 80-92

That's:
18-6 against RPI top 100 teams.
11-5 against RPI top 50 teams.
4-1 against RPI top 25 teams.
2-1 against RPI top 5 teams.

All with a team that was unranked going into the season and many against rosters with higher rated talent, recruiting-wise.

In one year, he beat the #4 team (Arizona), a team that spent much of the year #1 (Villanova) x2, an Elite-8 team (Xavier) x2, and 14 teams that played in the tournament. He went 6-2 against AP top-25 teams.

Anybody question his coaching ability?
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But he lost to Mcdoogie ... twice...

sorry couldn't resist.
 
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