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I want to - but I can't leave these threads alone.
Another thing that gets me about Weiss and the ND fans is that they talk about all the things he is learning and how that will make him a better coach down the line. So tell me again what it was he brought with him that qualified him for the job? Seems to me like they could have hired a software engineer or shoe salesman and molded them into a coach for all the learning CW has to do.
There are only brief moments when I wonder if perhaps the high ranked classes will in fact turn the ND program around - but only briefly.
There is no coach who stands in greater contrast to JT. JT came to OSU not with a handful of Super Bowl rings, but with years of HC experience and an approach to the game that was so fundamentally sound that he has merely continued to build on it each year.
CW on the other hand seems to be changing his entire approach with every breeze. QB roulette. A mid season boot camp. Now abandoning his seniors with four games left.
And I almost teared up reading about how he had to run around recruiting in the middle of the season. I wonder if other college coaches could be successful if they also had to go out and recruit their own athletes? This clown gets more mileage out of his program's name recognition than almost anyone out there.
My dream scenario is that ND does improve - and they certainly will - and eventually climbs back to a consistent pattern of 9-3 seasons. And that the Domer Nation praise him for achieving this new level of reduced expectations.
Another thing that gets me about Weiss and the ND fans is that they talk about all the things he is learning and how that will make him a better coach down the line. So tell me again what it was he brought with him that qualified him for the job? Seems to me like they could have hired a software engineer or shoe salesman and molded them into a coach for all the learning CW has to do.
There are only brief moments when I wonder if perhaps the high ranked classes will in fact turn the ND program around - but only briefly.
There is no coach who stands in greater contrast to JT. JT came to OSU not with a handful of Super Bowl rings, but with years of HC experience and an approach to the game that was so fundamentally sound that he has merely continued to build on it each year.
CW on the other hand seems to be changing his entire approach with every breeze. QB roulette. A mid season boot camp. Now abandoning his seniors with four games left.
And I almost teared up reading about how he had to run around recruiting in the middle of the season. I wonder if other college coaches could be successful if they also had to go out and recruit their own athletes? This clown gets more mileage out of his program's name recognition than almost anyone out there.
My dream scenario is that ND does improve - and they certainly will - and eventually climbs back to a consistent pattern of 9-3 seasons. And that the Domer Nation praise him for achieving this new level of reduced expectations.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Oh8ch;979582; said:
Not me. 9-3 means an undeserved BCS bowl in domer land. I want them to struggle. Maybe not like this year as that would be grounds for dumping Fat Bastard. I'd like them to go...say 6-6 next year...then all the domers would point to the amazing "progress" that Charlie and the team made and eagerly await a Return to Glory (v9.7) in '09 with a team loaded with "Charlie's recruits." Then, in '09, I'd like to see them go...6-6. That would result in the domer meltdown of the century, and ND would be faced with keeping the fraud or buying out the last 5 years of a 35 million dollar contract.
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ORD_Buckeye;979817; said:
[ND fan from the future]6-6 in 2009! But look at all of the departures we had in the 2007 season when were struggling so bad with Ty's recruits. And think of those blue-chippers we missed on then, too. The recruiting was good, but we still lost some great prospects due to our struggles. I mean, if we could have fielded a respectable team in '07, we would've had those other recruits in the fold at this point and think about how good this team would be. Those departures would be juniors and the other guys would be sophomores now and would really be developing into stars here. It would be scary good. Fortunately, we've got another crop of future All-American studs coming in next season and we are a LOCK for the BCS title. [/ND fan from the future]
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OCBucksFan
I won a math debate
I don't really dislike NoD, however, I do dislike Weis, having him with 2-3 wins next year would be great because suddenly he would be exposed for the fraud that he is. I hate the fact that the guy blames his players but takes credit for the wins, I hate the fact that all the Domer homers are so behind this guy for some reason when in reality I think Bob Davie was a better coach. Next year will be a real test, if he does return them to glory I will eat my words, but I don't think that will happen. Brady Quinn was the reason he won and that wasn't even a recruit Weis had anything to do with. This team isn't a talent problem, sure they may not be a top ten team talent wise, but they sure as hell shouldn't be 100+ in the rankings, last I checked they didn't get some recruits.
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Did you see that Nebraska/Notre Dame game in 2000?
Davie didn't coach to win, he coached not to lose. Notre Dame's mistake was sticking with Davie too long, and dumping Ty too soon. They got it backwards.
Davie didn't coach to win, he coached not to lose. Notre Dame's mistake was sticking with Davie too long, and dumping Ty too soon. They got it backwards.
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It's a lot of fun to watch Weis try to respond to his PR advisors telling him to tone down the arrogance and pretend to show some genuine concern for his players before he takes a real hit in the recruiting sweepstakes.
It's a bit like watching a deaf and blind man try to dance to the music in a light show. With a quick glance, it appears like he is dancing to a new tune, but listen closely to the music, and you see him for what he is.
It's a bit like watching a deaf and blind man try to dance to the music in a light show. With a quick glance, it appears like he is dancing to a new tune, but listen closely to the music, and you see him for what he is.
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Doesn't it just piss you off the way that the powers that be at ND won't listen to you and the way you think. The nerve of those people to do what they want to.kartaron;982277; said:
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Charlie 20 - 14 (worst season 1 - 8 and counting)
Ty - 21 - 15 (wost season 5 - 7)
Which guy do you give the big 10 year deal?
Ty - 21 - 15 (wost season 5 - 7)
Which guy do you give the big 10 year deal?
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