If this is true, it's time to start sending recruits who have committed to ND the press clippings. Anyone stupid enough to play for an arse like this, gets what they deserve.
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Not too surprising. They are going to be hurt big time by not having those 15 bowl practices. It will set them back even further.Picked this up on a Domer board.
If true, and not tongue in cheek, this is the most outlandish thing I have ever heard.
Not too surprising. They are going to be hurt big time by not having those 15 bowl practices. It will set them back even further.
OSU_Buckguy;971229; said:
This is the biggest bunch of bull I have ever read. The author either has to be a Michigan grad (Most hated team) or a USC grad (biggest rival). It is so bad - it's laughable. In two years when ND gathers their next National Championship I want this doucebag to write another article on how Charlie took his lumps this year developing a team of freshman and sophomores into a national power. It's easy to attack when someone is down but your true character will show when you have to eat this bunch of _____. You coward!
Jaxbuck;971614; said:I just don't have the words
OSU_Buckguy;971283; said:at the end of the final game of the year, i hope the seniors dump gatorade on weis.
and by gatorade i mean urine.
SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) - Like Notre Dame fans everywhere, coach Charlie Weis is looking for a reason to believe.
It's not easy. The Irish have the nation's worst offense. The defense is on pace to give up the most points in its 119-season history. If the Irish (1-7) don't win one of their final four games, it would be the worst season in the history of the storied program.
The Irish have been the butt of jokes on late-night talk shows for weeks and lampooned on Saturday Night Live. The ratings for Notre Dame games on NBC are down sharply.
Yet Weis appears confident that Notre Dame will turn things around, defiantly stating following a 38-0 loss to USC that the Irish haters "better enjoy it now, have their fun now."
Despite his bold statement, though, Weis concedes that he is looking for reasons to believe the Irish are getting better.
"You better start worrying about developing your team," he said. "Because as everyone knows, we're 1-7 and we're not playing very well."
Notre Dame is averaging 187.6 yards per game total offense, 32 below its previous worst season. The Irish are averaging 34.1 yards a game rushing, more than 101 yards a game below their previous worst.
Still, Weis sees reason for hope. He pointed out that against the Trojans, Notre Dame's leading rusher was freshman Armando Allen, its leading receiver was freshman Duval Kamara and the two best pass rushers were freshmen linebackers Brian Smith and Kerry Neal.
The Irish, who have just seven players left from their 2007 recruiting class, have been depending on underclassmen all season. Notre Dame's top three rushers and four of their top five receivers are freshmen or sophomores, and at quarterback freshman Jimmy Clausen has started six games and Evan Sharpley, who has two years of eligibility left after this season, started against USC.
"I think there are a number of guys that are showing us some serious promise that their futures are bright," Weis said. "To me, if you're getting that many people indoctrinated into your program where they're actually playing meaningful playing time, I think you're setting yourself up for some bright things to happen."
Playing time alone, though, isn't enough. Notre Dame needs its line, which already has allowed a school record 39 sacks, to start opening holes for its tailbacks and to protect the quarterback better. It needs its tailbacks, quarterbacks and receivers to be more productive. It needs its defense, which has improved this season, to tackle better.
"To be honest with you, if those things don't progress, why on what basis would you go into the spring thinking that everything's going to be OK?" Weis asked.
Irish players appear confident that things are going to be better than OK.
"We're going to learn to overcome losing, and at the end of the day we'll be a really good team and we'll be stronger because we've been through some rough times," Smith said.
Kamara said the younger players have talked about the future. "The guys are excited about the years to come because we know we have a bunch of talent here, great guys, greater personalities," he said. "We're just excited for the years to come."
The Irish have history on their side. They've had only 13 losing seasons and only twice were they in back to back years: in 1887 (0-1) and '88 (1-2), and in 1985 (5-6) and '86 (5-6).
Weis hopes Notre Dame can finish strong to gain momentum heading into next season. He saw it happen when he was the tight ends coach with New England in 1993, when the Patriots started the season 1-11 with rookie quarterback Drew Bledsoe and finished the season with four straight wins. The next year the Patriots made the playoffs with a 10-6 record.
Two years later they made the Super Bowl.
Weis is so eager to get a glimpse of the future that he spent part of the bye week practicing only with players eligible to play next season.
"I'm no different than the rest of you guys," he said. "I have to see evidence that we're making progress." Weis, like Notre Dame fans, needs a reason to believe.
ORD_Buckeye;972049; said:and by urine I mean sulfuric acid.
muffler dragon;972134; said:And then he comes back as The Joker? :)
ysubuck;972163; said:Thanks for everything, now you run along and I'm going to work with these guys over here because they can still do something for ME...I mean the program.
Honestly, how worthless does that make those kids feel? That's cold man. Wow.
ysubuck;972163; said:Wow. Wasn't it all about the seniors at the beginning of the season? Are you kidding me? This can't be true. No coach in his right mind would write off a bunch of kids like that.
Is he going to do that every year? You can't tell me that this team is all of a sudden going to turn around and be any good next season. You don't just come back from beatings like they've taken this season. How about next year's seniors who are in their last year of eligibility? Thanks for everything, now you run along and I'm going to work with these guys over here because they can still do something for ME...I mean the program.
Honestly, how worthless does that make those kids feel? That's cold man. Wow.
Somewhere Miss Cleo is smiling, maybe not even from behind prison bars or a pile of legal bills.
Maybe the former psychic-infomercial queen with the fake Jamaican accent and the real legal troubles actually was the one person who would have seen this implosion coming, the lull in Notre Dame third-year head football coach Charlie Weis' coronation.
The surprise of it, the depth of it, make it equally difficult to discern, logically or ethereally, just what kind of catalytic powers this season will have on future seasons. Apocalyptic or transformational?
The safe guess is that it won't be somewhere in between. Nothing Weis ever does comes in shades of gray. Either 2008 will be the season the former New England Patriots offensive guru flames out or it becomes the season where the flame is relit at Notre Dame for another long renaissance.
The team's current 1-7 record at this season's open date, the statistical atrocities, the drivel that comes from cursory looks at the program and flimsy conclusions are unreliable indicators of which way the pendulum spikes in 2008.
Weis himself will be the most powerful and reliable indicator, although much of what he does or doesn't do in the offseason toward that end will be out of public view. Yet his open-mindedness to evolve may be the best news at Notre Dame since the notion to expand the stadium was announced.
The most fair comparison for 2008 would be the 2005 season, Weis' first. That was the year he bullied the college football world into taking Notre Dame seriously again. That is what he would like to do again in 2008.
The 2005 squad also is, realistically, the best of the three Weis-coached Irish teams, so it seems reasonable to set the bar there.
“They’ll have a weak senior class, which is never good,” CSTV recruiting analyst Tom Lemming said of the 2008 model. “But that can’t be avoided. What they’ll have though, is three really strong classes — freshmen, sophomores and juniors. So this is definitely a more talented team than the 2005 squad. The one noticeable difference where it’s not better will be experience at quarterback. Brady Quinn was moving into his third year as a starter.”