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Charlie Weis (ex-Kansas HC, ex-Fla OC, Notre Dame legend, UnDecided Schematic Advantage)

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THEOhioState;966404; said:
OK,

so I talked about a coach few care about.

BUT, KU is for real in the Big 12.... right?
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Let me check my "I care list" for that.
1. Ohio state

2. Buckeyes

3. TBDBITL

4. Willing naked women

5. Creme filled eclairs.

Nope not there . :biggrin:
 
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THEOhioState;966404; said:
OK,

so I talked about a coach few care about.

BUT, KU is for real in the Big 12.... right?
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This is a thread about Charlie and his chocolate factory, not about KU, so take it to a new thread, or you could just flush it all together, no one really cares that much.

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ORD_Buckeye;961901; said:
Not sure about the quote. I read it in a thread on the domer board. The other domers didn't jump all over the guy and lock the thread, so I assumed there was some validity to the quote.

IrishIllustrated.com - Message Boards

I don't have the stomach to venture into the actual video of Fat Bastard's press conference to either confirm or disconfirm the rumor.
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Re: Charlie's Post game comment

Reply Great call, well disguised, and I doubt the holding had any real role in allowing the play to happen. Tough luck for ND that the hold was called. SB is still a tough place to win, and it's a credit to the fans, and the team.

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It is? Is that why the only game they've won was on the road??? :slappy:
 
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I'm about tired of Charlie not taking the blame for the way his kids have played thus far. Everyone talks about what an offensive genius he is. With the great recruits he has supposably brought in, when does the blame finally start to fall on him. I listened to his press conference after the USC loss and he sounded deflated. Talking about how he's going to give his all and not quit until their back to where they want to be. I know that is just crap a coach has to say after they get plastered 38-0 but come on, 1-7 @ ND. He likes to talk about how once the kids he brought in get the system down and start contributing more, things will turn around. You've had 2 years of great recruits Charlie, maybe it's the coaching. Looks like other teams are able to rebound after loosing a lot of players to the draft, graduation, tranfers, ect.... You look at all the teams that have had success recruiting in the last 3-4 years and none of them are struggling like the Irish. Gotta point to the coaching @ some point.
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Historically things are at their lowest for ND when the Chicago media chimes in with negative comments.

When those comments basically call Weis unbeleivable - it is, I think, a new low.

Word to the Weis: We're done Listening

You can't take what Charlie Weis says on faith anymore.

It's time to realize -- maybe -- he's not the coach he said he was or perhaps we thought he was when he took the job three years ago. Maybe he can be that coach. We'll have to wait and see.
That's the cumulative effect of this season, which officially became the lost season when Notre Dame barely showed a heartbeat in its 38-0 loss to USC on Saturday.
It's really a small price to pay for the sort of bumbling the team has showed on the field. Some coaches wouldn't have lasted another year after starting the season 1-7 at Notre Dame.
As Weis has told us, over and over and over again, he's responsible for this mess. This phrase should be like the plural form of You by now for any ND follower: Understood.
If I could wave a magic wand and issue a decree, I'd say this about Notre Dame football. Stop covering them for the rest of the year. NBC shows reruns of "Law & Order" on Saturday afternoon. Editors order their reporters to cover high school soccer games instead of spending four hours in the press box, munching on chicken and peering through binoculars, trying to figure out just who it was that sacked the quarterback for the 33rd time. Fan forums switch to exclusive conversations about basketball, football and soccer.

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On Saturday, after the loss, Weis told a roomful of people when asked if this is as low as the program could sink "they better enjoy it now."
I suppose he meant the team is going to get infinitely better next year and the year after, though he didn't clarify.
This presumably is based on a recruiting class that is ranked among the best in the country now and a schedule that appears like it's going to get easier, not harder, over the next few years.
It was a strange and perhaps unnecessary thing to say, given Notre Dame's predicament. It was vintage Weis. The kind of thing you would have believed without thinking twice a couple years ago.
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Then there is this blog piece - TOP TEN REASONS WHY ND SHOULD KEEP WEIS

Instead of coming up with the unobvious reasons, I decided to just let Charlie's quotes speak for themselves. Here's what $20 mil gets you in South Bend, Indiana. See if you agree with the Regents, that Charlie has earned his keep so far.

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10- "Players don't win games, schemes do."
Exact date of when quote was said is unknown, but Julius Jones joked about the "phone book" the players had to carry around. What we want to know is, is if his schemes included the little things that makes team win; like, say, blocking, catching the ball, hiking the ball, preventing QB from getting sacked, getting more than 200 yards of offense in one game (goal number 1 next year) and preventing defections from team.
9- "We will never lose to Michigan State on my watch."
Nice Charlie, that was a promise you made to the boosters on the day of your hiring. No comment. Okay, maybe just one. Brilliant!
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Much more in the same vein.

Last but not least, putting a best face on things Sporting News chimes in ...

Weis adapts approach in Notre Dame's troubled season


SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- There was some disbelief in the press box before the USC-Notre Dame kickoff when officials signaled the Irish had won the toss and deferred until the second half. Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis had said, repeatedly, he would never consider going on defense first if he won the toss. Never.
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The best example might be his stance about playing for the future.
In August, when asked whether this season would be a rebuilding year, Weis said: "May God strike me dead if I use that word."
Well, he's still breathing, and he still hasn't used the word, but Weis is going into a rebuilding mode during this bye week.
The team will practice through Wednesday before heading home for a few days during Notre Dame's weeklong fall break, during which coaches will fly across the country on recruiting trips.
Half of each practice will be spent preparing for the next opponent, Navy (4-3). Then, players who won't be back next season will depart, and practice will resume with the younger players.
"We're going to make sure we utilize this week to get going on Navy, but I think it's just as important to start developing the team as if those guys are gone," Weis said.
That doesn't mean Weis won't use fifth-year seniors such as tight end John Carlson, center John Sullivan and safety Tom Zbikowski in the last four games. What it means is the players behind them, as well as other second-stringers, will get some chances to play.
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Nebraska commit Jonas Gray has opened up his recruiting again with a visit to Notre Dmae

For his part, Weis said the word “commitment” needs to be redefined in recruiting.
“If you’re married,” he said, “you shouldn’t be looking at other women.”
Weis said he would push for the creation of an early-signing period, so players who commit early would not be hounded by rival coaches. Weis would like that period to culminate with an Aug. 1 early signing date.
Even if the American Football Coaches Association cannot gain approval on that from the NCAA, Weis said he would change the way he solicits commitments in the future.
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