Wells4Heisman
Fifth Year Freshman
All Notre Dame coaches before have won a N.C. on their 3rd season at notre dame, guess hes not a "N.C. coach" 
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Wells4Heisman;799564; said:All Notre Dame coaches before have won a N.C. on their 3rd season at notre dame, guess hes not a "N.C. coach"
Well, if 'All' doesn't include Faust, Davie, and Willingham, you've got something. I guess you mean that if a coach wins one, it's been by year 3.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
A Big Win For Charlie Weis
He's used to winning on the football field, but Tuesday Charlie Weis was looking for a victory for an entirely different cause.
The Notre Dame head coach and his wife, Maura made their presentation to the St. Joseph County Council Tuesday night.
The Weis family have a special needs daughter named Hannah.
Through the Hannah & Friends foundation, they're looking to build a 30 acre farm and residential center on Hollyhock Road, between Auten and Adams roads.
The project will cater to special needs adults 18 and older.
The Council voted unanimously, 9-0, to pass a special use permit and now the Weis family can move forward with their dream.
"We want to set the example where people across the country come in and say, hey we want one of these in our community, let's get going. And that's part of our goal, we want this to be the Taj Mahal of residential Communities for adults with special needs," said Charlie Weis.
Coach Weis says the Hannah & Friends foundation has an endowment of more than 1.5 million dollars and an additional 1.5 million set aside to build the farm and residential center.
Entire article: http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=18471
He's used to winning on the football field, but Tuesday Charlie Weis was looking for a victory for an entirely different cause.
The Notre Dame head coach and his wife, Maura made their presentation to the St. Joseph County Council Tuesday night.
The Weis family have a special needs daughter named Hannah.
Through the Hannah & Friends foundation, they're looking to build a 30 acre farm and residential center on Hollyhock Road, between Auten and Adams roads.
The project will cater to special needs adults 18 and older.
The Council voted unanimously, 9-0, to pass a special use permit and now the Weis family can move forward with their dream.
"We want to set the example where people across the country come in and say, hey we want one of these in our community, let's get going. And that's part of our goal, we want this to be the Taj Mahal of residential Communities for adults with special needs," said Charlie Weis.
Coach Weis says the Hannah & Friends foundation has an endowment of more than 1.5 million dollars and an additional 1.5 million set aside to build the farm and residential center.
Entire article: http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=18471
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IrishCalves
A fleck of Gold in a sea of Scarlet and Gray
For every time I've heard Charlie called "Jabba", I've heard Tressel labeled as "Cheaty McSweatervest", Urban Meyer as "The Cockwad", and Pete Carrol "The Poodle".
I gotta ask; is it the profile the school carries, or the man behind the curtain?
I'll give it to you that Charlie is a pretty domineering personality. Definitely doesn't fit the model Catholic citizen profile ND craves when he's swearing 'til he's blue in the face over a missed holding call. And he has had to tone down his demands in the past. But is he THAT bad in your eyes? Or is it that he's simply a very fun target for you guys?
Sort of just want to cut through the jabs you guys throw around in jest, and see what you guys honestly think of him.
I gotta ask; is it the profile the school carries, or the man behind the curtain?
I'll give it to you that Charlie is a pretty domineering personality. Definitely doesn't fit the model Catholic citizen profile ND craves when he's swearing 'til he's blue in the face over a missed holding call. And he has had to tone down his demands in the past. But is he THAT bad in your eyes? Or is it that he's simply a very fun target for you guys?
Sort of just want to cut through the jabs you guys throw around in jest, and see what you guys honestly think of him.
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ulukinatme
Old Skool
You either love 'em or hate 'em. Thats the general concensus I believe. When it comes to Notre Dame, most people that don't love them would rather rip on them, its the popular thing to do. It seems there are a select few that would rather not give a damn, or just be good sports, which is kind of ridiculous considering how many non-ND fans hate the team and they never play them. The school gets more exposure than most others, and people don't get the whole independant status, even though its been that way from the beginning. Theres a lot of contributing factors I think, and I know theres others that haven't been listed, but thats what I've come to find.
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IrishCalves;862330; said:
There was much less animosity toward Bob Davie and Tyrone Willingham when they were the head coach there, and the difference isn't because of the team's relative won-loss records. Even when Tyrone started out well in 2002, and ND spent the first two weeks of the BCS rankings at #3 (their highest BCS ranking ever - ND spent 2 weeks at BCS #5 last year), I don't recall much negativity from other fans toward Willingham.
tOSU fans had reason to not like ND in 2002, since for a while it seemed the two teams were battling for the #2 spot behind Miami. But there was little personal animosity toward Willingham.
Weis draws attention to himself, and much of it is intentional. Part of the backlash is the profile of the ND program, but I believe most of it is due to the way Weis conducts himself.
tOSU fans got a lot of Weis coverage before the Fiesta Bowl after the 2005 season. Many of us concluded that he has an ego that more than matches his waistline.
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He's an asshole, so he brings it on himself. Your other targets are all targeted out of jealousy. Fatty McFat Fat is just targeted because he's a fat asshole.
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BuckTwenty
Parties with Pete Johnson's Beard
I think a lot of the animosity Weis gets is from his arrogant demeanor. Watching that story on (I believe) 20/20 about Charlie, the interview they had with him pretty much solidified any feelings on my behalf about how arrogant the guy was, and I know that rubbed a lot of people other than myself the wrong way as well. I honestly don't have any sympathy for Charlie for the teasing and bashing he gets, because I question the kind of real character the guy has. That's about as honest as I get right there.IrishCalves;862330; said:
And he deserves the kind of ribbing he gets, showing all his pretty Super Bowl rings to potential recruits that he earned as an assistant coach for an NFL team. Those Super Bowl rings have yet to translate to the college game thus far, without a "signature win", a ring, or a trophy to show for it during his time at ND (though it's good enough to earn him a contract extentsion until 2015, be known through the media as "The Mastermind" or "The Genius", and help him pull in recruits Tyrone should have been pulling more of in).
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
Love those college football fans - they do have a penchant for nicknames. It is all about why those names arise though isn't it? Weis earned his name the old fashioned way, he pissed people off with his attitude. The others largely got their inventive tags through success.IrishCalves;862330; said:
In the case of Weis the cat-calling is almost entirely about him - like BB73 stated, compare the Davie and Willingham nom de guerre count vs. Weis.IrishCalves;862330; said:
Understatement of the thread, really.IrishCalves;862330; said:
OK, let me put it this way several ND fans I know and speak to find him over the top. These are folks that hope and/or appreciate what he has done and may do for ND football, supporters of Weis the coach if you will. They dearly want to see those big time winning ways return to ND, hope that ND will (one day) win a big bowl game, with Weis leading the charge. But, get them on the topic of Weis and arrogance and you can talk for hours with them about how he does not fit their ideal.IrishCalves;862330; said:
Your response, ulukinatme, is much more about ND the program than it is about Weis the coach or personality. You can separate the two factors, and I think one should. I'd look at Weis vs other recent ND coaches as the converse of the difference between say, Dan DeVine or Ara Parseghian and Gerry Faust in personality. (In that Faust was a good guy, who could do no real good, while Weis waxes wise oftentimes, yet has never fully lived up to his own or the media's hype).ulukinatme;862627; said:
The "Jabba" jibes against Weis are not the same as the equivalent tagging of Tressel or Carrol or (insert name of high profile coach here). It is more like the tagging of John L. Smith, only instead of simple metal instability it all about the over-bearing and arrogant demeanor the man presents as his public face.
As for their independent status, which I highlighted in your response above, I think it is fair to say that college football fans easily understand that part of ND as football program. They are not part of a conference, do not wish to be part of one, and have no financial imperative to persaude them to join one. (Quite the contrary). The only way that the independent status gets under the skin of some team's fans is when you see "In a league of their own" emblazoned on T-shirts. Personally, I think that part of it is currently very amusing as the "league of their own" they inhabit is one that has failed to win a major ball game since before the new millenium.
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