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Charlie Weis (ex-Kansas HC, ex-Fla OC, Notre Dame legend, UnDecided Schematic Advantage)

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Nothing super anymore about Weis, Crennel

By Sean McClelland
Staff Writer

Monday, December 01, 2008
They left the New England Patriots in triumph, eager to run their own shows. But it hasn't worked out for Romeo Crennel with the Browns, nor for Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, and you wonder whether it can.
I feel worse for Crennel, mainly because there's some humility to the man. Weis too often comes across as not the smartest guy in the room, but the guy who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. That's particularly annoying when that guy isn't winning.
Four years ago, the Browns and Notre Dame both gambled on men who had not been head coaches before. Cynics ? who look pretty smart now ? wondered whether Crennel and Weis merely had been in the right jobs at the right time, benefiting from the genius and
chicanery of Patriots head coach Bill Belichick.
That said, it's hard to believe they are bombing this badly.
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NOTREDAMECHIEF;1342417; said:
Next Monday that is, Charlie stayed on the west coast to do some recruiting. If I had my choice of all the names mentioned (the one ND would have a chance at) I would try and get Harbaugh. He would be a blast to watch.
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I'd love that hire for ND. I'd have no problem rooting for a Harbaugh-led team, especially against UM.
 
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Gatorubet;1342767; said:
Any program that goes for a tie to win a National Championship should be cursed for a thousand years with this guy.
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Any post that dumps [censored] on Ntre Ame for something that happened in 1966 gets a 'well done' from me.

[NDFan] But Terry Hanratty was knocked out by that nasty Bubba Smith, Coley O'Brien was diabetic, and Nick Eddy got hurt stepping off the train, so playing for a tie was smart. [/NDFan]
 
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While it's hard to keep from laughing at Charlie, it should be pointed out that he won two out of the three games he played against Big 10 teams. That can't help the conference in getting decent bowl bids and with PSU and OSU sitting at 8 and 10 in the polls.

Maybe I'll give Charlie a pass until the conference looks like it's doing something.
 
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cincibuck;1343174; said:
While it's hard to keep from laughing at Charlie, it should be pointed out that he won two out of the three games he played against Big 10 teams. That can't help the conference in getting decent bowl bids and with PSU and OSU sitting at 8 and 10 in the polls.

Maybe I'll give Charlie a pass until the conference looks like it's doing something.
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yeah so? Any domers that bring that fact up need to have their heads examined.

He beat a 4-8 Purdidn't team and a 3-9 scUM team. 6-6 teams are supposed to win those games. it isn't like Purdidn't or scUM beat Ohio State or Penn State.
 
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cincibuck;1343174; said:
While it's hard to keep from laughing at Charlie, it should be pointed out that he won two out of the three games he played against Big 10 teams.
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To be perfectly clear...Charlie Weis has never played football against the Big 10 or in any other way shape or form at the collegiate level.
 
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cincibuck;1343174; said:
While it's hard to keep from laughing at Charlie, it should be pointed out that he won two out of the three games he played against Big 10 teams. That can't help the conference in getting decent bowl bids and with PSU and OSU sitting at 8 and 10 in the polls.

Maybe I'll give Charlie a pass until the conference looks like it's doing something.
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Aug_30: missouri 52 illinois 42 (St Louis)
Sep_06: ILLINOIS 47 eastern il 21 (non I-A team)
Sep_13: ILLINOIS 20 louisiana lfyt 17
Nov_08: western mich 23 illinois 17 (Detroit)
Aug_30: INDIANA 31 western kent 13
Sep_06: INDIANA 45 murray st 3 (non I-A team)
Sep_20: ball st 42 INDIANA 20
Nov_01: central mich 37 INDIANA 34
Aug_30: IOWA 46 maine 3 (non I-A team)
Sep_06: IOWA 42 florida intl 0
Sep_13: IOWA 17 iowa st 5
Sep_20: PITTSBURGH 21 iowa 20
Aug_30: utah 25 MICHIGAN 23
Sep_06: MICHIGAN 16 miami ohio 6
Sep_13: NOTRE DAME 35 michigan 17
Oct_11: toledo 13 MICHIGAN 10
Aug_30: CALIFORNIA 38 michigan st 31
Sep_06: MICHIGAN ST 42 eastern mich 10
Sep_13: MICHIGAN ST 17 florida atl 0
Sep_20: MICHIGAN ST 23 notre dame 7
Aug_30: MINNESOTA 31 northern illi 27
Sep_06: minnesota 42 BOWLING GREEN 17
Sep_13: MINNESOTA 35 mt st 23 (non I-A team)
Sep_20: MINNESOTA 37 florida atl 3
Aug_30: NORTHWESTERN 30 syracuse 10
Sep_06: northwestern 24 DUKE 20
Sep_13: NORTHWESTERN 33 southern il 7 (non I-A team)
Sep_20: NORTHWESTERN 16 ohio 8
Aug_30: OHIO ST 43 youngstown st 0 (non I-A team)
Sep_06: OHIO ST 26 ohio 14
Sep_13: SOUTHERN CAL 35 ohio st 3
Sep_20: OHIO ST 28 troy 10
Aug_30: PENN ST 66 cstl carolina 10 (non I-A team)
Sep_06: PENN ST 45 oregon st 14
Sep_13: penn st 55 SYRACUSE 13
Sep_20: PENN ST 45 temple 3
ep_06: PURDUE 42 northern co 10 (non I-A team)
Sep_13: oregon 32 PURDUE 26
Sep_20: PURDUE 32 central mich 25
Sep_27: NOTRE DAME 38 purdue 21
Aug_30: WISCONSIN 38 akron 17
Sep_06: WISCONSIN 51 marshall 14
Sep_13: wisconsin 13 FRESNO ST 10
Nov_22: WISCONSIN 36 ca poly 35 (non I-A team)



32-12, 23-12 against own division teams and 9-0 against lower division teams
 
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Steve19;1343236; said:
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Aug_30: missouri 52 illinois 42 (St Louis)
Sep_06: ILLINOIS 47 eastern il 21 (non I-A team)
Sep_13: ILLINOIS 20 louisiana lfyt 17
Nov_08: western mich 23 illinois 17 (Detroit)
Aug_30: INDIANA 31 western kent 13
Sep_06: INDIANA 45 murray st 3 (non I-A team)
Sep_20: ball st 42 INDIANA 20
Nov_01: central mich 37 INDIANA 34
Aug_30: IOWA 46 maine 3 (non I-A team)
Sep_06: IOWA 42 florida intl 0
Sep_13: IOWA 17 iowa st 5
Sep_20: PITTSBURGH 21 iowa 20
Aug_30: utah 25 MICHIGAN 23
Sep_06: MICHIGAN 16 miami ohio 6
Sep_13: NOTRE DAME 35 michigan 17
Oct_11: toledo 13 MICHIGAN 10
Aug_30: CALIFORNIA 38 michigan st 31
Sep_06: MICHIGAN ST 42 eastern mich 10
Sep_13: MICHIGAN ST 17 florida atl 0
Sep_20: MICHIGAN ST 23 notre dame 7
Aug_30: MINNESOTA 31 northern illi 27
Sep_06: minnesota 42 BOWLING GREEN 17
Sep_13: MINNESOTA 35 mt st 23 (non I-A team)
Sep_20: MINNESOTA 37 florida atl 3
Aug_30: NORTHWESTERN 30 syracuse 10
Sep_06: northwestern 24 DUKE 20
Sep_13: NORTHWESTERN 33 southern il 7 (non I-A team)
Sep_20: NORTHWESTERN 16 ohio 8
Aug_30: OHIO ST 43 youngstown st 0 (non I-A team)
Sep_06: OHIO ST 26 ohio 14
Sep_13: SOUTHERN CAL 35 ohio st 3
Sep_20: OHIO ST 28 troy 10
Aug_30: PENN ST 66 cstl carolina 10 (non I-A team)
Sep_06: PENN ST 45 oregon st 14
Sep_13: penn st 55 SYRACUSE 13
Sep_20: PENN ST 45 temple 3
ep_06: PURDUE 42 northern co 10 (non I-A team)
Sep_13: oregon 32 PURDUE 26
Sep_20: PURDUE 32 central mich 25
Sep_27: NOTRE DAME 38 purdue 21
Aug_30: WISCONSIN 38 akron 17
Sep_06: WISCONSIN 51 marshall 14
Sep_13: wisconsin 13 FRESNO ST 10
Nov_22: WISCONSIN 36 ca poly 35 (non I-A team)



32-12, 23-12 against own division teams and 9-0 against lower division teams
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You can call the MAC an "own division game" if you want, but I see them as just a cut above Div 2. Let us call a spade a spade, the Big 10 stunk this year. It's reflected in the polls, it will be reflected in the bowl assignments and unless they kick some ass during the holidays it will be reflected in the early polls next fall.
 
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