Uh, well, let's see. If Texas chokes on the bit against ASU, and Georgia gets rocked by ND, then there isn't any SEC team left in the CFP. Therefore, targeting. See, it's not that hard to understand.
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Uh, well, let's see. If Texas chokes on the bit against ASU, and Georgia gets rocked by ND, then there isn't any SEC team left in the CFP. Therefore, targeting. See, it's not that hard to understand.
Yeah. Pretty clear targeting based on the games I’ve watched this year. Consistency is piss poor on reviews.
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In the past two games, I don't really recall them putting together many long, sustained drives on offense. When they weren't hitting home runs, they struggled. If our corner play continues to be elite like it has the past couple of weeks, then we hold them under 20.
Their defense is really solid, especially when you look at the season-long statistics. However, they have not really played any elite offenses this year and have shown cracks against the better offenses they have faced to date.
Their defense is really solid, especially when you look at the season-long statistics. However, they have not really played any elite offenses this year and have shown cracks against the better offenses they have faced to date.
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scarletngray
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What a great matchup! THE Oho State University vs Texas
The TX vs ASU game was very physical. It was a brutal contest and each team beat up on the other. I think that barring any practice injuries that we will have the healthier and fresher team heading into the Cotton Bowl.
GO BUCKS!
The TX vs ASU game was very physical. It was a brutal contest and each team beat up on the other. I think that barring any practice injuries that we will have the healthier and fresher team heading into the Cotton Bowl.
GO BUCKS!
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I’ll try, paraphrasing language in the rules.
There are two ways a hit can be targeting.
1 - The hit is made with the crown of the helmet. For this aspect, it doesn’t matter if the player is ‘defenseless’ or not. And the hit doesn’t have to be to the ’head or neck’ area. But the helmet must be lowered almost sideways for the actual crown to be the point of impact. If the tackler is turning his head or looking up it‘s not going to be contact with the crown. But Joey Bosa putting his head down and ramming into the Domer‘s chest in the bowl game was targeting due to the ‘crown of the helmet’.
They changed the definition of ‘crown’ in 2022 to be “the top segment of the helmet; namely, the circular area defined by a 6-inch radius from the apex (top) of the helmet."
2 - A ‘defenseless’ player receives forcible contact to the ‘head or neck’ area. A QB throwing the ball is defenseless. Somebody completely wrapped up can be defenseless to another defender running to him. A receiver is defenseless when he’s in the act of catching the ball. But then it gets to be a gray area. Helmet-to-helmet contact may be targeting, but not necessarily if the defender was turning his head or hit first with his shoulder, or if the ball carrier lowered his own head just prior to contact. If the defender launches into the contact is another factor that makes targeting more likely.
Replay refs in the last couple of years have been less inclined to confirm targeting (which must happen for the penalty to be enforced as targeting); they only want to eject a guy for an egregious hit.
The example above was one that seemed like it could go either way. The defender was trying to make a normal pass defense play, but there was helmet-to-helmet contact and the receiver was still defenseless. So in that situation it’s only targeting for certain if the defender was a Buckeye.
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There are two separate standards for Targeting - it depends on if the player is defenseless or not.
The rule states:
no player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player OR contact an opponent with the crown (top) of their helmet.
The Rule:
Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet
ARTICLE 3 No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of their helmet The crown of the helmet is the top segment of the helmet; namely, the circular area defined by a 6-inch radius from the apex (top) of the helmet This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below) When in question, it is a foul (Rule 9-6) (AR 9-1-3-I)
Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player
ARTICLE 4 No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below) When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6) (AR 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
• Launch A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14) When in question, a player is defenseless Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
• A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass This includes an offensive player in a passing posture with focus downfield
• A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect themselves or has not clearly become a ball carrier• A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return
• A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect themselves or has not clearly become a ball carrier
• A player on the ground
• A player obviously out of the play
• A player who receives a blind-side block
• A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped
• A quarterback any time after a change of possession
• A ball carrier who has obviously given themselves up and is sliding feet first
Source: https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR24_20240724.pdf
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I turned the game off when they went up 14-0 in about 13 seconds. Imagine my surprise when I checked again in the 3rd and they had 17 points.
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Under the plain language of the rule "When in question, it is a foul," this should have been ruled targeting.
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1926Buckeyes
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@Buckeneye made the point last night that pass blocking was an issue on straight passing plays, and I noticed some of that against Tennessee too. The OL has done a great job stepping up in a tough situation, so they just have to keep working and see if they can shore that up a bit. That's my main concern on offense. If we're nitpicking, Howard has been high on passes to the outside, but I'd prefer him do that as the WRs can corral those vs throwing a bad pass that can be picked off.
Just keep hitting on defense. They'll get some yards and scores, but I think Oregon is a top 5 offense when they want to be and Texas doesn't have that consistency or the benefit of Gabriel running scramble drills every play. Their TE seems pretty dangerous though.
Not going to expect these huge starts to continue, and I hope OSU keeps proving me wrong.
Just keep hitting on defense. They'll get some yards and scores, but I think Oregon is a top 5 offense when they want to be and Texas doesn't have that consistency or the benefit of Gabriel running scramble drills every play. Their TE seems pretty dangerous though.
Not going to expect these huge starts to continue, and I hope OSU keeps proving me wrong.
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That’s true, but the replay refs have usually not been enforcing it that way for the last couple of years.
I believe the enforcement has been better the last year or two. It’s still not consistent enough, and they may need to re-visit the language of the rule, including the ‘When in question, it is a foul’ phrase, because they have been more reluctant to eject players lately.
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Captain Buckeye
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And 7 of those were from a punt return touchdown. We are not a good matchup for the long horns.
Now that doesn’t mean we can’t lose but I think the potential is there to run through a third team in a row
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Ohio State remains the scariest matchup to any team right now. We are locked in and utilizing the talent we have. I can't imagine UT not taking a mind-dump before preparing for the next one. Anything can happen, but Sark has to be at least a little concerned here.
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