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Cbf40's look at '11 recruiting

I think the loss of Longo is exactly Duane's point.

OL is arguable the toughest position to project and OSU's track record at the position is less than stellar. I don't know enough about the three kids in question to suggest one way or the other, and any opinion would be unfair.

But Duane's point that "wait and see" where we can should be the order of the day with OL seems well taken.
 
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Oh8ch;1860404; said:
I think the loss of Longo is exactly Duane's point.

OL is arguable the toughest position to project and OSU's track record at the position is less than stellar. I don't know enough about the three kids in question to suggest one way or the other, and any opinion would be unfair.

But Duane's point that "wait and see" where we can should be the order of the day with OL seems well taken.

There is one thing that you can look at when recruiting OL that is the difference between the good ones and great ones...motor and meaness...If they are mean and never stop playing that helps the situation because if I'm a coach I want nasty OL.
 
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brutus2002;1860418; said:
There is one thing that you can look at when recruiting OL that is the difference between the good ones and great ones...motor and meaness...If they are mean and never stop playing that helps the situation because if I'm a coach I want nasty OL.

I would say athleticism at elite size is something that is one of the few indicators of projectable talent...the great ones have been big but still maintained great athleticism, whether it be in football or other sports as well.
 
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Duane's off on this one IMO.

Mewhort
Linsley
Hall
Norwell
Brown
Carter
Underwood
Bobek
Walker
Kalis
Boren
<more to come>



Thats a great mix of guys who are or have started, guys who can step in at any time, and a few guys who might take a few years. Furthermore, the guys who are "projects" aren't like the guys who were "projects" a few years back. These guys have abilities that cant be taught, and just need to learn the ins and outs of the position.



Talk about a huge overreaction to a 3rd string OL leaving....
 
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HotMic;1860429; said:
Talk about a huge overreaction to a 3rd string OL leaving....

Also strange because until very recently, Duane's "bold" opinion was that Walker was a project and he didn't see why everyone thought he was so good.

Walker lights it up at a national combine and he does a complete 180 and claims we need Walker and the already committed players are now the projects. I don't recall him ever raising issues with the committed linemen previously.

Oh well... I find myself agreeing with Duane's opinions less and less these days.
 
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BlockONation | Head of the Class: Top 10 Ohio State Recruits for 2011

Grant Freking-BlockONation Featured Contributor

National Signing Day 2011 is fast approaching and the Buckeyes currently have 21 commitments in their 2011 class, which is ranked No. 6 by ESPN.com, No. 2 on Scout.com and No. 7 on Rivals.com.

After considering talent level, immediate and future impact, rankings and video evidence, here are the top 10 2011 Buckeye football commitments.

No. 10-Jeremy Cash

There isn't a recruiting category for hybrid defensive backs. If there was, Cash would be higher on that list than he is on some safety rankings. He fits the mold of the "Star" position at OSU, a combination of a linebacker and safety.

The 6-foot-2-inch, 185-pound Cash will probably need to pack on a few more pounds before he can take the punishment of the Star position at the college level. However, he does have a nose for finding the ball-carrier and tackles like the former linebacker that he is.

It takes awhile for players to grow into the Star position. Both Jermale Hines and Tyler Moeller earned their stripes as backups and as special team players before they matured into their hybrid roles on defense. Expect Cash?s route to be similar.

No. 9-Evan Spencer

The only wide receiver in this top 10 is Spencer, who hails from Vernon Hills, Illinois. After seeing video of Spencer, two things are clear: he's got good hands and he's got the so-called Ginn Stride. He's not as fast as Ted Ginn Jr., but the two have similar 180-pound body types (Spencer is two inches taller at 6-foot-1) in addition to running with longer strides than of what one sees out of your typical player.

Spencer is your prototypical do-it-all receiver: he sets up his blocks well on reverses, he's not afraid to take a screen pass over the middle and he great on "go" routes because of his ability to hit top speed quickly.

Odds are, Spencer probably won't see the field as a freshman. DeVier Posey (once he's back from suspension) is the No. 1 with Philly Brown and Chris Fields probably next in line. Check back on Spencer in 2012.

No. 8-Chase Ferris

A lot of scouts dog Farris for being relatively slow-footed as far as change of direction plays. I don't see it. Is he DeMarcus Ware? No. But he's no sloth either.

Farris stands 6-feet-6-inches tall, weighs 265 pounds and exhibits great strength both as an offensive and defensive lineman. On the defensive side, he sheds blocks very well and while he may not be great in pursuit, he still causes havoc in the backfield.

There's a good chance Farris could be a poor man's Cam Heyward. Or he could be moved to the offensive side of the ball. It's too early to tell. But the key for Farris is once he finds a position he needs to perfect the technical aspects of his game, because he's already got all the physical gifts.

No. 7-Kenny Hayes

Hayes edged Farris by the slimmest of margins because the vibe is Hayes is slightly more ready for college football. At 6-foot-5-inches and 250 pounds, Hayes is built like an NFL defensive end, but could move inside if he adds more weight.

He doesn't have the speed of Steve Miller or Ryan Shazier, but Hayes is very, very strong and looks like he would be able to handle a double-team pretty well. It will be interesting to see if he's moved inside to defensive tackle or remains at end.

As far as an immediate impact, I just don't see Hayes cracking the rotation in 2011. He should, however, make a big impact at OSU before his career is over.

No. 6-Brian Bobeck

Think current OSU center Michael Brewster but only three inches shorter. Bobek doesn't grade out quite as well as Brewster did as a prospect, but he's not far behind. Those who have watched him play say Bobek is a very cerebral lineman who is able to recognize blitzes quickly.

Bobek, who is stands 6-foot-2 and weighs 275 pounds, chose OSU over Michigan State, where his brother Jeff is a fullback. During his U.S. Army All-American Bowl practice interview, Bobek cited aggressiveness what seemed like a dozen times. He claimed he was a really aggressive lineman style-wise, but that he also needed to be more consistent with that style.

With Brewster coming back for his senior year and Corey Linsley being a safe option as a backup, Bobek may redshirt and sit a few years before seeing the field. But when he does secure playing time, OSU fans can expect to see a center that won't be fooled by blitzes and has the technique to handle any defensive linemen.

Continued...
 
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Scout Commitment Tracker - Scout

Curtis Grant
Wallace: OSU Lichtenfels: OSU Safrit: Florida Actual:

Audrey Walker
Wallace: OSU Lichtenfels: OSU Safrit: OSU Actual:

Rivals.com - Signing Day predictions

MIKE FARRELL
Recruiting Analyst

CHRIS NEE
Recruiting Analyst

BRIAN PERRONI
Recruiting Analyst

ADAM GORNEY
Recruiting Analyst

KEITH NIEBUHR
Recruiting Analyst

GREGG PETERSON
AMP Producer/Analyst

All have Curtis Grant going to OSU except Peterson...and it's a clean sweep with Walker and OSU.
 
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MONTbigBuck;1862522; said:
Some speculation over at THERINGER that Cardale Jones may have been offered a greyshirt by the Bucks. If Jones visits that could be very telling. It would be nice if Smith, Wadc, or Grad elaborated on this one for the BP board, either here or in the rumor mill.

http://www.theringer.com/forums/ohio-state-targets/2125-11-oh-qb-cardale-jones-12.html


When all's said and done, I would like for Jones to get a scholly and come to OSU. I don't think we can just put all of our eggs in the Braxton Miller basket. Having some more healthy competition won't help, especially when we lose 2 QBs after this season(and possibly Guiton ala Antonio Henton). I'm sure a lot of us would feel more comfortable that if we possibly lose 3 we still have 3 QBs on scholly, with different skill sets but can all play well in different capacities
 
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I can't remember a time when OSU has been in play for so many kids this late in the process.

I am also reminded that in the final week the question often becomes how far a coach is willing to go to land a recruit. In that sense Tressel does indeed have a tough time closing.

It will be an interesting week.
 
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Oh8ch;1862598; said:
I can't remember a time when OSU has been in play for so many kids this late in the process.

I am also reminded that in the final week the question often becomes how far a coach is willing to go to land a recruit. In that sense Tressel does indeed have a tough time closing.

It will be an interesting week.

If we finish with just Walker alone, I'll be pleased with the class. IMHO the more scholarships we have for next year the better. If we have big time oos recruits showing up next year, it could be a crazy year.
 
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The fact we turned down a visit from Tank, a Glenville kid nonetheless, specks volumes to me about where the staff think's they sit with Grant. I mean they have to feel pretty good to turn down a sure fire commit from Glenville...

I think Story is just waiting for comfirmation of who the next WR coach will be.
 
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