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Cbf40's look at '11 recruiting

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11W Recruiting Notebook: All-Star Edition | Eleven Warrios

By Alex - 10 January 2011

The Buckeyes are Sugar Bowl champions and the 2010 season has come to an end for the Scarlet and Gray faithful, but certainly not for the coaching staff. Before Jim Tressel begins to worry about who his starters at some key positions are for the first five games of next season, The Vest and the rest of the coaching staff have to worry about finishing up the remaining spots in the recruiting class of 2011.

Last week was the pinnacle of the high school football season, as two primetime all-star games took place, featuring the nation's top senior stars. The Army All-America Bowl has been around for quite some time and used to be the mecca of America's young talent, but the media horse of ESPN and a growing popularity with the sponsor brand has brought the Under Armour game to national prominence as well. No matter your preference, both games brought fans tremendous entertainment this past week and gave the country a glimpse of the next group of college football stars.

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Good recap for those who missed these games...
 
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http://www.duanelongreport.com/2011-articles/january/mining-for-scholarships.html
As the class of 2011 winds down I find myself looking at the last few names on the Buckeye short list and think I want this class to be done right now.

There are ten to twelve names still out there that the Buckeyes have a shot at. Of the players on that list I can only see two that I would like to see a part of this class. Curtis Grant is an elite linebacker prospect with few weaknesses. He runs so well. he has great instincts. He has a motor. He has a great looking body to build on. You take him no matter what. The same with wide receiver Ja'Juan Story. You don't see big split ends like Story come along very often. He is a throw it up and let him go get it receiver. There are never too many of those on your roster. There are some other good players on that Buckeye offer list. The thing is, I have been looking at so much film that I can't see any of the others as players I would like to have more than players right here in state in the class of 2012.

Fans have gotten excited about Stanford commit James Vaughters coming in this weekend for an official visit. With no coach in place at Stanford now that Jim Harbaugh has taken the San Francisco 49'er job, the Buckeyes stand a good chance of landing Vaughters. He is a really nice player but the target was two linebackers in this class. The recent commitment of national top 100 linebacker Ryan Shazier fills the slots set aside for linebackers in this class. Like I said, you don't say no to Curtis Grant. With the need filled and Grant maybe a Buckeye come signing day, I just would not have room for a player like Vaughters, nor for the other linebacker on the board Ejuan Price.

I don't think we will see offers to the Glenville trio of Cardale Jones, Shane Wynn or Andre Sturdivant. I am hearing no chatter about any of them around here and we have only two remaining visit weekends left before signing day after this weekend. We know they are not coming in this weekend. Whether it is grade related or not it is not looking good for any of them. As much as I like Jones and Sturdivant I am concerned about their ability to stay in school because it has taken so long to get eligible, which it appears they are not right now. With the current depth chart at quarterback, the offer out to the outstanding junior from California Shane Dillon, and the monster class in the state of Ohio in 2013, I just don't see an offer coming for Jones. The staff going back after Story tells me that Wynn may be off the board too. The most underrated position in 2012 is the receivers. Beyond Dwayne Stafford there are others who I think could be Buckeye caliber.
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i agree with duane that we shouldnt take any of the glenville kids besides walker...i would like this class to end up with some combination of Story, Grant, Vaughters and Walker....i know Jennings is a great athlete but i would rather save a scholarship for next year then to get him...and i dont think he ends up at tOSU anyways...I feel the same with Ejuan Price, UNLESS we do not land Vaughters or Grant....in reality i think when signing day comes i think we end up with Walker and Price and call it a class
 
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Do we start to think about banking a few 'ships to supplement a thin class next year, if we don't manage to fill all our '11 spots with commits from the Walker, Grant, Vaughters, Price, Jennings (also Keith Wells) group?
 
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OilerBuck said:
Do we start to think about banking a few 'ships to supplement a thin class next year, if we don't manage to fill all our '11 spots with commits from the Walker, Grant, Vaughters, Price, Jennings (also Keith Wells) group?
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I think that there is a strong likelihood that the staff is considering "banking" some of the scholarships. But I also think that natural attrition will occur in the off-season from possible transfers and NFL bound juniors after the 2011 season (not many come to mind, but this is Ohio State... NFL prospects rise up all the time). While the scholarship number in 2012 seems to be around 15 at the moment (not counting whatever may be "banked" from '11 to 2012), I think that number can approach the 17-20+ range which should be just fine.
 
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http://www.duanelongreport.com/2011-articles/january/worried-about-wormley-not-at-all.html

Worried about Wormley? Not at all


Written by Duane Long | 13 January 2011

There has been some buzz going around about elite 2012 defensive lineman Chris Wormley from Toledo Whitmer. That buzz has intensified with the appointment of a new coach at Michigan. A real dyed in the wool Michigan man who I believe will bring the old intensity back to the greatest rivalry in all of sport, the Ohio State - Michigan game.

Wormley was always rumored to be a Michigan fan. He grew up a Michigan fan. Last week Ray Jaske from ESPN 990, http://www.espn990.com/, had a conversation with a family member who stated that Wormley is probably a Michigan lean. It stands to reason that Toledo would be a battle ground in The Rivalry. Recently Ohio State has owned that battleground but I remember Hoke at Ball State. He is originally from Dayton Ohio. He knows the state. He is a good recruiter. He will recruit well here and you can bet he is going to go like gang busters after the one game changer he has a good shot at landing, all the while getting back into the fight for top kids in the state of Ohio in a place that is not so hostile toward the Michigan program.

The question is, why am I so calm about losing such a talent? The answer is a simple one.

I see two linemen in this unbelievable class in 2012 that stand above them all. Those players would be Greg McMullen from Akron Hoban and Adolphus Washington from Cincinnati Taft, both definite Buckeye leans by the way. It is not that I think Wormley is overrated. That is not the case. I see a unique body in Wormley. I see unique measurables in Wormley. I am a believer in recruiting athletes over players. Players cannot overcome their lack of natural tools while athletes can learn to be great players. They can be coached into being difference makers. The best of the best are both great specimens and great players. That is what I see with McMullen and Washington. They are both freaky athletes, especially Washington, and they are great players. That is why I have both rated over Wormley. I have seen great plays that put him at the top of others lists. I also see him disappear for long stretches. One game early in the year the headline had fans all worked up about Wormley because he had a number of sacks. In between you did not know he was on the field. Cont..
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Diego-Bucks;1856629; said:
I think that there is a strong likelihood that the staff is considering "banking" some of the scholarships. But I also think that natural attrition will occur in the off-season from possible transfers and NFL bound juniors after the 2011 season (not many come to mind, but this is Ohio State... NFL prospects rise up all the time). While the scholarship number in 2012 seems to be around 15 at the moment (not counting whatever may be "banked" from '11 to 2012), I think that number can approach the 17-20+ range which should be just fine.
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Must be so weird to have a similar discussion in forums for certain SEC teams - instead of worrying about how few scholarships the team may have next year we'd just have to debate which ten players should be forced off the team to make room for some high school juniors.
 
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With the commitment from Price yesterday, we now have 3 LB's in this class. It also looks like Vaughters and Grant also have serious interest in being a buckeye.
With those two being better than the 3 committed, what happens if one or both of them want to come to OSU?? Do we take 5 LB's?? or just the first one to commit??
 
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stoody24;1858928; said:
With the commitment from Price yesterday, we now have 3 LB's in this class. It also looks like Vaughters and Grant also have serious interest in being a buckeye.
With those two being better than the 3 committed, what happens if one or both of them want to come to OSU?? Do we take 5 LB's?? or just the first one to commit??
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You take all 5! And try to convince several to enroll early to count on last years scholly count, or hell, just be creative(I'm sure the coaches know legitimate ways to get kids here without messing with the scholly count). But you in no way turn down Vaughters or Grant!
 
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ranking JT's recruiting classes

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/577855-ranking-tressels-recruiting-classes-how-does-11-stack-up

When the class of 2011 signs on the dotted line on February 2nd, it will mark the 10th recruiting class of the Tressel era. I realize that he was technically hired before the class of 2001 signed, but most of those players were in place before the Senator took office, so we won't include that group in our discussion.
Although he has been criticized for failing to close strongly (which has often been true), the fact is that Ohio State has inked some excellent talent and has more often than not been ranked in the top 10 by the recruiting services.​
Once again it appears that the coaching staff is assembling an excellent group of players this year so the question looms how does this class stack up with others in the past decade? Although we don't have a final report card on recent classes let's take a crack at rating the "Tressel 10" from worst to first:
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10. Class of 2003​
The biggest disappointment of Jim Tressel's tenure was his second class, which came on the heels of winning the national championship. The highest rated players in this class were defensive backs Donte Whitner and Dareus Hiley and tight end Louis Irrizarry and only one panned out.​
Not only was it a small class, but a majority of players didn't contribute due to academics, off-the-field issues or injuries: Marcel Frost, Ira Guilford, Irrizarry, Sian Cotton, Reggie Smith, Brandon Maupin, Hiley, Devin Jordan and Curt Lukens (that is nine out of 15 if you are counting). The stars of '03 were Whitner, corner Ashton Youboty and receiver Anthony Gonzalez.
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