Cam Newton (QB New England Patriots)

[Zippercat]

Last year Florida's LB Brandon Spikes was suspended for a game after his attempt at eye-gouging during TWLOCP was caught on camera. It was initially a first-hald suspension, then made a full game after the public reaction to the half-game.

Wasn't that suspension by the coaching staff and not by the SEC?

 

[cincibuck]

Good stuff cinci - but I need to bit more education on the subject. Please help me understand how the "board of presidents" system relates to program discipline?

I am really am not trying to be a smartass here - I need some clarification.

1. Would the Board of Presidents (BOP) say "no way" if Wisconsin wanted to hire Calipari or say....Dennis Erickson (coaches with shady pasts)?

2. Would disciplinary measures be a (BOP) decision rather than a school or NCAA decision?

3. Were the BOP consulted when it was discovered that Michigan had been working out and practicing in excess of NCAA limits? Did they hand down a recommendation to UM or did the school govern itself? Or did they let the NCAA handle it?

Just using that example to see what the actual influence the BOP has over the AD's...etc

You're right, in the end perception is one thing and actions are another. I believe that a conference board made up of university presidents presents a very different image to the public and to the member schools than a board made up of old jocks, coaches and fund raisers. Though the board may apply pressure, it still often falls upon the individual school to "do the right thing."

For example: within weeks of having his school's football team being mauled by Michigan, University of Chicago president, Robert Hutchins stood before the Detroit Chamber of Commerce and accused the CoC, "Michigan, using a team you bought and paid for, humiliated our players." He then took Chicago out of Big Ten athletics, concluding that big time athletics sullied the school's academic priorities, but the school remains a strong part of the conference's academic union.

Within hours of losing his temper in front of TV cameras and grabbing Charlie Bauman of Clemson, Woody Hayes was fired by the university. 13 conference championships, 4 national championships, a solid record of charity work and a high graduation rate among his athletes -- didn't matter. Had Ohio State not acted so quickly I'm sure there would have been pressure placed on it by the conference.

After several warnings by the school's president, Bobby Knight, whose bio of good deeds read much like Hayes, was fired. Again, it was a decision made by the school president, but I'm sure the knowledge of pressure from the conference was a factor.

On the other hand, Dave Winfield and his Golden Gopher teammates mugged three members of the Buckeye team, sending two of them to the hospital, and the University of Minnesota and the conference did little more than say, "tsk, tsk."

 

[Gatorubet]

Wasn't that suspension by the coaching staff and not by the SEC?

SEC reviewed it and accepted the suspension that was given by UF, so technically it (the SEC) did not suspend him. But the matter was officially reviewed by the conference.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

all of this is going to make a great movie.

 

[Gatorubet]

all of this is going to make a great movie.

Except that Hollywood is just as likely to cast Danny DiVito as Cam.

 

[BigWoof31]

Except that Hollywood is just as likely to cast Danny DiVito as Cam.

I'd pay $10 to see it if Nathan Lane was cast as Chizik

 

[BB73]

Slive knew about this early and sat on the information and is also
in the 'crosshairs' of the FBI..

Now isn't that an interesting development?

Slive has a very important decision to make. Allow Auburn to play in the SEC Title Game for a shot at the BCS Title, or declare LSU the SEC West Champion, since it might be better to have LSU win that game and lobby for a BCS Title shot over Boise State and TCU, than to have Auburn stripped later of whatever they win this year. An Auburn loss to Bama, and I think a lot of voters will drop Auburn outside the top-5 to make sure they don't sniff the BCS Title Game.

But is Slive too busy covering his own ass in the federal investigation?

 

[Mr_Burns]

I'd pay $10 to see it if Nathan Lane was cast as Chizik

If Phil Hartman were still alive, I'd go with him.

 

[BB73]

Wasn't that suspension by the coaching staff and not by the SEC?

Yes, but that's normal. JT suspended Reynolds back in 2003, after consulting with Alvarez - the Big Ten just OK'd it.

 

[ochre]

Now isn't that an interesting development?

Slive has a very important decision to make. Allow Auburn to play in the SEC Title Game for a shot at the BCS Title, or declare LSU the SEC West Champion, since it might be better to have LSU win that game and lobby for a BCS Title shot over Boise State and TCU, than to have Auburn stripped later of whatever they win this year. An Auburn loss to Bama, and I think a lot of voters will drop Auburn outside the top-5 to make sure they don't sniff the BCS Title Game.

But is Slive too busy covering his own ass in the federal investigation?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Slive
Slive
(slīv)
v. i.1.To sneak.
v. t.1.To cut; to split; to separate.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913 by C. & G. Merriam Co.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Now isn't that an interesting development?

Slive has a very important decision to make. Allow Auburn to play in the SEC Title Game for a shot at the BCS Title, or declare LSU the SEC West Champion, since it might be better to have LSU win that game and lobby for a BCS Title shot over Boise State and TCU, than to have Auburn stripped later of whatever they win this year. An Auburn loss to Bama, and I think a lot of voters will drop Auburn outside the top-5 to make sure they don't sniff the BCS Title Game.

But is Slive too busy covering his own ass in the federal investigation?

Wasn't Slive a judge in his former life?

 

[jlb1705]

Except that Hollywood is just as likely to cast Danny DiVito as Cam.

 

[BB73]

Wasn't Slive a judge in his former life?

He has a law degree (J.D.) from Virginia, and a Master of Laws (LL.M.) from Georgetown. He was a lawyer in New Hampshire (he was a Dartmouth undergrad), a judge for a while, and a partner in a Chicago law firm.

 

[BigWoof31]

Yes, but that's normal. JT suspended Reynolds back in 2003, after consulting with Alvarez - the Big Ten just OK'd it.

And Coach Urb and Spikes called Washaun Ealey to make sure he was ok AND to apologize after the incident.

We're still waiting for Nick Fairley and Chizik to call....

 

[MUBuck]

Thread name change FTW.