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BigWoof31;1813863; said:
Good stuff cinci - but I need to bit more education on the subject. Please help me understand how the "board of presidents" system relates to program discipline?

I am really am not trying to be a smartass here - I need some clarification.

1. Would the Board of Presidents (BOP) say "no way" if Wisconsin wanted to hire Calipari or say....Dennis Erickson (coaches with shady pasts)?

2. Would disciplinary measures be a (BOP) decision rather than a school or NCAA decision?

3. Were the BOP consulted when it was discovered that Michigan had been working out and practicing in excess of NCAA limits? Did they hand down a recommendation to UM or did the school govern itself? Or did they let the NCAA handle it?

Just using that example to see what the actual influence the BOP has over the AD's...etc
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I think it's a combination of rules and culture. The Big Ten has always held itself to a higher standard than the NCAA minimum going all the way back to when Michigan was kicked out of the conference for several years in the 1910s because Fielding Yost would not put the football program under the control of the faculty and university president. The Big Ten has always had entrance requirements for athletes that are higher than NCAA minimums. We didn't allow partial qualifiers when it was ok for schools and other conferences to do so. We never allowed athletic dorms when it was commonplace in the SEC, SWC and Big 8.

Combine that with a culture of frankly better universities across the board and a formal academic consortium existing parallel to the athletic conference and there is a fundamental difference historically between the Big Ten and the SEC. It doesn't mean schools haven't strayed. Even then, the response has always been a rather stark contrast to that of SEC schools caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Look at the house cleaning the Minny did after Clem Haskins or Ohio State firing Jim O'Brien so fast we violated his contract, then turning ourselves into the NCAA. I know it might not be popular to say, but even Michigan went through some serious house cleaning in the aftermath of the Fab 5 scandal.

The SEC rolls it's own way. It's obviously worked for you...at least in football. Just don't pretend that the rest of the country doesn't notice.
 
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buckeyesin07;1813933; said:
I am absolutely shocked. And here all along I thought Slive was diligently investigating this and attempting to comply with the rules.
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Actually, one of Slive's first decisions was that the conference would no longer investigate its members. If the NCAA wanted to, that was fine. Guess it's easy to get 'em all off probation if you stop investigating them.
 
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Just some tangential stuff:

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/10/11_alabama_legislators_lobbyis.html

MONTGOMERY -- Eleven people arrested this morning on corruption charges stemming from an investigation into efforts to pass gambling legislation have been arraigned and released on bond.

Among the 11 who made bond was Milton McGregor, who also was ordered to be monitored by federal authorities. Bond for McGregor was set at $500,000.

Prosecutors requested electronic monitoring of McGregor because they said he threatened FBI agent Keith Baker when Baker went to McGregor's Montgomery home to arrest him. Baker testified he entered McGregor's home after a security guard told him McGregor was away on a hunting trip.

Baker said that, once he was inside the house, McGregor told him he was making the biggest mistake of his life.

Baker testified that he believed McGregor knew him from a previous investigation. Baker said McGregor was the focus of a murder-for-hire investigation involving McGregor and his then son-in-law, Todd Brown.

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Bucklion;1813922; said:
This is starting to look like the movie Blue Chips on steroids.
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I was thinking the exact same thing... When reading the post the image of Nick Nolte Admiting to everything kept popping into my head.... except Auburn admission would take a coulple of hours to get out!

This is crazy... a land mine has turned into a nuke

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I like this article about McGregor.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9J4V0O80.htm

A federal prosecutor revealed Thursday that investigators tapped the phone calls of two casino owners and a casino lobbyist before issuing indictments in Alabama's gambling probe.
Justice Department prosecutor Peter Ainsworth said in a court hearing that investigators recorded thousands of phone calls involving VictoryLand owner Milton McGregor, Country Crossing developer Ronnie Gilley and that casino's lobbyist Jarrod Massey.
Those three and eight others were arrested Oct. 4, accused of buying and selling votes on pro-gambling legislation. The indictment recounted phone conversations between some of them, but it did not reveal publicly which parties' phones were tapped. The first public disclosure came Thursday.
Prosecutors have given defense attorneys tape recordings of 3,000 intercepted calls they say are pertinent to the bribery and conspiracy charges against the defendants. A federal judge will hold a hearing Wednesday on whether prosecutors must turn over several thousand more.
Ainsworth said more than 1,000 of the calls were between defendants and their attorneys or their spouses, and 7,800 were not pertinent to the investigation.
"It might have been a conversation about a golf game or Saturday's football game," he said.
In addition to the tapes of 3,000 phone calls, defense attorneys said they have received more than 100,000 pages of documents from prosecutors. Turning over that information is required of prosecutors so defense attorneys can prepare for a trial scheduled April 4.
The federal investigation coincided with Gov. Bob Riley's gambling task force working to shut down all non-Indian casinos in Alabama. McGregor's VictoryLand in Shorter and Gilley's Country Crossing in Dothan closed their electronic bingo casinos to prevent raids by Riley's task force.
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Gatorubet;1813881; said:
Or one game, like Reynolds choking Sorgi and actually putting him out of the game???



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5729976

Google is your friend

I would like to see Fairly suspended for a game, but the hypocrisy and hyperbole on here is a little much
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This coming from you, Gator? GTFO as you live off that in many of your posts. :roll1:

Sorry I missed the one player from Mississippi this year, but there have been many instances where your SEC brethren have cried foul (Dorsey getting the Hi-Lo is one example) where the SEC did nothing, nada, zilch. So don't act all high and mighty that I missed ONE instance of the SEC doing the right thing.
 
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