Cam Newton (QB New England Patriots)

[Nutriaitch]

And the timing and source of when the father's church got money for renovations is another thing that needs to be determined.

a couple Auburn fans on our boards have said the Newton's had the money before they ever started recruiting the kid.

they linked newspaper articles dated last september mentioning that the church would have the money in less than 6 months.

 

[Muck]

What, like the same way Troy Smith was proven to be immoral for taking the $500?

Yes.

Willingly doing something that you know is wrong is not a 'mistake'. It is a statement regarding your character.

 

[Taosman]

Immaturity can cause mistakes. When people are older there's no excuse but greed.
The SEC runs on the premise that "Sure, we cheat! It's your job to catch us!" Vanderbilt has been mired in mediocrity because they refuse to buckle to the pressure to cheat in the SEC.

 

[MaxBuck]

It would be interesting to know whether donation to a church subsequent to matriculation of an athlete at the school of said donor's preference actually constitutes an NCAA violation. It's not clear to me that it does.

I'm not saying this in defense (or accusation) of anyone, nor saying that it's morally OK, ethically OK, or anything of the sort. It seems kind of grimy to me, actually. I just don't know whether it's a true violation.

 

[Nutriaitch]

It would be interesting to know whether donation to a church subsequent to matriculation of an athlete at the school of said donor's preference actually constitutes an NCAA violation. It's not clear to me that it does.

my question is the other way around.

If Newton and his people asked for money, but never actually got it, is it still a violation by him?

 

[BB73]

a couple Auburn fans on our boards have said the Newton's had the money before they ever started recruiting the kid.

they linked newspaper articles dated last september mentioning that the church would have the money in less than 6 months.

I had heard of the timing of those articles - but that could mean they expected the money because of Cam's recruitment. How and when that money got to the church needs to be tracked.

 

[cincibuck]

I'm no lawyer, but burglary and larceny theft seem a bit higher up on the immoral scale than accepting a $500 handshake, which I believe was to pay for a cell phone.

That's one hell of a cell phone. My wife just bought a new i-phone + mobile me, lessons, foreign use - total came to $300...

 

[BB73]

That's one hell of a cell phone. My wife just bought a new i-phone + mobile me, lessons, foreign use - total came to $300...

I think a 'cell phone bill' was what was mentioned, which could have been multiple months of calls.

And prices have come down quite a bit in the last fwe years.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

I'm no lawyer, but burglary and larceny theft seem a bit higher up on the immoral scale than accepting a $500 handshake, which I believe was to pay for a cell phone.

Where can I get some of those Scarlet glasses you're sporting, my friend?

 

[Nutriaitch]

I had heard of the timing of those articles - but that could mean they expected the money because of Cam's recruitment. How and when that money got to the church needs to be tracked.

that, and if you add up the 6 months from September, it puts you in March.

enough time for "someone" to gradually make donations without drawing too much attention.


I hate them redneck assholes as much as anyone else does, but this ain't what I wanted to happen to them (if anything happens to them).

However if the NCAA gives them a primal ape fucking, I won't shed any tears of sympathy for them douche bags.

 

[jwinslow]

It would be interesting to know whether donation to a church subsequent to matriculation of an athlete at the school of said donor's preference actually constitutes an NCAA violation. It's not clear to me that it does.

How? You can't pay money to land a recruit, no matter how that money is laundered or re-routed.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

I love how the SEC is "one" when it's beneficial for a single program or their fans to mention it as such, but as soon as one of their "brothers" is accused of some sort of wrong doing the fingerpointing and "they deserve whatever they get" routine comes out en masse. Incredible.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

lessons...

 

[MaxBuck]

It would be interesting to know whether donation to a church subsequent to matriculation of an athlete at the school of said donor's preference actually constitutes an NCAA violation. It's not clear to me that it does.

How? You can't pay money to land a recruit, no matter how that money is laundered or re-routed.

I'm sure that the NCAA rules are not written in anywhere near so straightforward language. Unfortunately.

 

[jwinslow]

I'm sure that the NCAA rules are not written in anywhere near so straightforward language. Unfortunately.

Then why is the church a central part of the scandal and investigation if that loophole exists?

You can't buy prospects. If all I took were a donation to a charity or church tied with the family, everyone would do that and never get in trouble.

Have the booster pay the church, and have someone at the church adopt the players expenses that year due to a broken or difficult home life.