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Cam Newton (QB New England Patriots)

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Re: Rogers has a company called Elite Football Preparation, which holds camps in Alabama, Chicago and Mississippi, and matches football prospects with colleges. Calls to the company have gone unanswered.

Entire article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/05/cam-newton-investigation-_n_779367.html

I always get a laugh out of that statement. Nobody being investigated ever answers and/or returns calls to the media!

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GAINESVILLE ? Florida backup quarterback Cameron Newton was arrested Friday and charged with three felonies in connection with the theft of a $1,700 laptop computer.
Newton, 19, was charged with burglary, larceny theft and obstructing justice, according to an Alachua County Jail booking report.

Entire article: http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/article912982.ece

They maintained he had not stolen the computer, but instead purchased it from a man selling electronics out of the back of his car. The charges, all felonies, were later dropped after Newton completed a pretrial diversion program.
When Newton left Florida in early 2009 to transfer to Blinn College, a two-year junior college in Texas, he and his father said he didn?t want to spend another year backing up then-Gators quarterback Tim Tebow, who decided to stay for his senior year.
And when as the nation?s top junior college recruit, Newton decided not to attend Mississippi State to play for Dan Mullen, his former offensive coordinator at Florida, and instead chose Auburn last December, the decision was made for him by his father, according to a recent Sports Illustrated article.

Entire article: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...urns-cameron-newton-for-heisman-trophy-110410

The details of the program will vary from place to place, but the basic structure is usually the same. In order to qualify, the person must not have a prior arrest record. Additionally, the charge the person is facing must be of a relatively minor nature. For example, a person charged with murder or rape is not going to qualify, but someone charged with petty theft or a drug possession offense is likely to be eligible for the program.
The program is usually offered only to those unlikely to offend again in the future. The program is not a way to increase the number of times a person can get away with getting arrested, but is to provide a second chance to a generally good person who did something stupid or impulsive, or who got in trouble over an addiction problem that has a strong likelihood of being helped through treatment. If the person is already perceived as being an arrest problem in the future, he or she is not likely to be offered a place in the program.
If the person is accepted into the pretrial diversion program, then he or she will enter a plea of guilty to the criminal offense. However, the judge will not enter an order adjudicating him or her guilty. A person is not guilty until a judge issues an order finding that person guilty, so at this point the person is in limbo between pleading guilty and being convicted of the crime.

Entire article: http://www.examiner.com/legal-news-in-national/what-is-pretrial-diversion-or-deferred-prosecution

Note: The pretrial diversion program is to give 1st time offenders (i.e. guilty people) a second chance.

I don't know here. Would you really "plead guilty to 3 felonies" if you were actually innocent, even to get into the pretrial diversion program where MAYBE your slate would be wiped clean?
 
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BB73;1805359; said:
I believe that Cam and his father have said that they never had any contact with Rogers,
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haven't seen the pics myself, but it has been reported that there are pictures of Newton with Rogers on a recruiting trip.
to my knowledge, Cam's dad never denied using Rogers as an advisor.
But he claims that if any money changed hands, he doesn't know anything about it.


Rumors in SEC land is that Fr. Newton has a church that needed renovating or it would get condemned and torn down by the city (somewhere in georgia), but they didn't have the money for the necessary repairs.

Someone may or may not have donated $250k to help pay for the renovations.
 
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Nutriaitch;1805456; said:
haven't seen the pics myself, but it has been reported that there are pictures of Newton with Rogers on a recruiting trip.
to my knowledge, Cam's dad never denied using Rogers as an advisor.
But he claims that if any money changed hands, he doesn't know anything about it.


Rumors in SEC land is that Fr. Newton has a church that needed renovating or it would get condemned and torn down by the city (somewhere in georgia), but they didn't have the money for the necessary repairs.

Someone may or may not have donated $250k to help pay for the renovations.
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Yeah, it was actually Auburn that has said they never dealt with Rogers in relation to Newton.

And the timing and source of when the father's church got money for renovations is another thing that needs to be determined.
 
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All of the pieces seem to add up that something sketchy could have happened and in the end I would not be at all surprised to find that it did. What I'm still confused about is the timing of all of this as this information has been in the NCAA, Auburn and the Newtons' hands for almost a year. All-in-all it's unfortunately a cultural thing for football players to get paid in all sorts of ways out there in SEC country and a lot of kids knowingly choose to take part assuming that they, just like many others will ultimately get away with it. I feel like that's more of an issue with the guys dishing the money than the guys getting it under the table.

It'll be an unfortunate situation if there's some sort of wrongdoing that plays into Cam's eligibility, but it wouldn't be the first time and it sure as hell won't be the last. Such is the world we live in. Bottom-dollar takes precedent over top-class every damn day of the week.
 
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I'm not suggesting Cam is innocent (he could be) but in a case where a student athlete has a parent or relative or coach who promises a school that they can persuade them there for money, how do you go about punishing the athlete.

If Reggie would have never taken anything personally and only his parents received the house, is Reggie supposed to turn his parents in at that point?
 
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ScriptOhio;1805447; said:
I don't know here. Would you really "plead guilty to 3 felonies" if you were actually innocent, even to get into the pretrial diversion program where MAYBE your slate would be wiped clean?
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Small difference, but Cam did not "plead guilty to 3 felonies". Newton pled to the larceny and obstruction charges, which were dropped after he successfully completed the diversion program. The burglary charges were dropped once it was determined Cam did not steal, but bought, a hot computer.

If not for diversion programs your criminal trial backlog would be huge. They are routine. I am helping a neighbor's family with their son's marijuana possession change, which is a felony because he had it at school. I got him into a diversion plan, where he will plea to the felony, and then have it expunged if he keeps his nose clean. They are quite common.

Let's say you were convinced that the DA overcharged you, as is common, and that you did not commit a felony. Even if true, it is better to plead to a felony and get a dismissal/expungement - than to fight the felony and prevail in getting it reduced to the more factually correct misdemeanor charge, a charge that WILL stay on your record and mess up employment opportunities.
 
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osucollegebuck;1805526; said:
hasn't this kid proven himself to be immoral? I can't really give him the benefit of the doubt although we're all supposed to love him as he hugs the tiger fans at the end of each heart warming game.
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What, like the same way Troy Smith was proven to be immoral for taking the $500? I think it wrong-headed to label kids who make mistakes as inherently immoral people...IMO. I have to say that your statement sounds mean spirited and sanctimonious. Nothing about Troy's mistake rendered him "immoral", unless you want to get into some esoteric philosophical argument about the nature of morality and its relationship to adhering to the current laws.

As to Cam, I'm sure he bought it at a "discount", and while I do not know the details of purchase price, etc., he likely should have known it was hot. But whether he knew or not, when Cam threw the hot laptop out the window it made him guilty of obstruction.

They both screwed up. Neither are "immoral" in my opinion, by virtue of their respective mistakes.

The Cam love is over the top. It is annoying. But that is not Cam's fault, but the fault of the same folks that made a good guy like Tebow vilified for being CBS's poster boy.
 
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I hope for the kids sake all these claims are false. He is having a fantastic season and I hate seeing the dark underbelly of college sports. I am not naive to think it does not exists and if if cheating did occur I hope the truth comes out and punishment is enforced.

What a potential Con though, be a handler get several schools bidding for a player get "retainer" type cash during the process.... Kid signs somewhere else and not a damn thing can be said because <insert school name> was involved in the bidding.
 
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Like the predatory sports agents, they need stiffer punishments for the givers instead of just focusing on the poor kids (and all but the rarest american is poor in contrast to the volume of dollars dangled in front of them).

Do the players know the rules? Sure, but few follow them, and it is really hard to turn down such a big answer to a need, like handling health or bill emergencies.
 
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Gatorubet;1805531; said:
What, like the same way Troy Smith was proven to be immoral for taking the $500?
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I'm no lawyer, but burglary and larceny theft seem a bit higher up on the immoral scale than accepting a $500 handshake, which I believe was to pay for a cell phone.
 
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But you are also a more informed/respected poster and the 500 dollar handshake wasn't the whole picture with Troy either, not to brush it off and say all programs do it, but nobody on any forum should be ranking morality of any player.
 
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