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Cam Newton (QB New England Patriots)

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Trivia question, just for the hell of it. First correct answer gets greenies.

List all FBS QB besides Cam Newton who have scored 20+ TD and thrown for 20+ TDs in the same season.
 
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Gatorubet;1825941; said:
Respectfully disagree Jeff. If that were the case, the sudden appearance of a long lost father of a raised-by-his-single-mother 5 star athlete could ruin the athlete's career just by the father trying to cash in influence by soliciting money - even for a kid with no knowledge of the dad's scam.

If the kid decides to go to a school that his parent does not want him to go, a vindictive parent could end the entire career by asking for money from that or any other school. And what is the limit of the contacts? The penumbra of the entire extended family? Their minister? Teacher? Cousins? What if they were raised by non-family - could the non-family care-giver ask for money and be OK because of a lack of familial connection? If the Blind Side family raising the kid does nothing wrong, but the natural parent show up and ask for money to influence the choice, does that end a career?

It is really a complicated issue. The unfairness that would result from an automatic NCAA athletic career death penalty rule should give us pause to push for something as broad as that.
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Sorry about the delay in response.




GB - this is exactly what I was talking about. There is a difference between an estranged parent and one who you visit. These rules need to be read Pari Materia.


12.3.1.2 Benefits from Prospective Agents. An individual shall be ineligible
per Bylaw 12.3.1 if he or she (or his or her relatives or friends) accepts
transportation or other benefits from:

(a) Any person who represents any individual in the marketing of his or her
athletics ability. The receipt of such expenses constitutes compensation based
on athletics skill and is an extra benefit not available to the student body in






The ignorance claim can does not alter Cecil as an agent. Cecil is a prospective agent because represented any idividual in the marketing of his or her athletics ability is an agent by 12.3.1.2(a) and basic common sense. The moment he asked for a pay for play he became an agent. Maybe Cam didn't know he was an agent up to this point but now Cam does know. Any contact or benifit Cam receives from his parents from this point forward has to be considered Benifits from Prospective Agents including Christmas Dinner. If any random idiot asks for for money, so be it. They are from that point forward an agent and off limits. If a specific person, specifically Cecil Newton asks for benifits they are an agent and off limits. It really is that simple.
 
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Gatorubet;1827008; said:
Show me where Cam has lied. Show me where Dez' dad lying got him ineligible. My point is that Cecil can lie about anything but that which is a violation of the NCAA rules. It is likely that lying to the NCAA will get you in trouble. That is the investigating authority. I can lie to you or CNN all I want. If I lie to the FBI in an investigation I go to jail. "Lying" is not important. What you are lying about, or more importantly, who you are lying to is what matters.



1) What NCAA rule(s) has Cam violated?
2) Who has Cam lied to?
3) Your proof that there was a "lie" by Cam is what again?



It does not take much to grab a pitchfork and join the rest of the crowd in attacking the Montgolfier brothers' balloon. All it takes, really, is just a misunderstanding about what the Hell is really going on and a bunch of pent up emotion. This stuff is really very basic and formal. You can only act according to the rules that govern your organization. You cannot use supposition and inference to replace actual facts. Everybody keeps doing it. I don't get why.
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Ya know Gator, my Grandpa sometimes said "No how long you build the runway, pigs can't fly!" I think that kinda describes your attempts to explain the legal side of this......

But, I have enjoyed your attempts! I'm not sayin you have been, in any fashion, wrong. Just that you're still building that runway. :biggrin:
 
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