C Byron 'B.J.' Mullens (Levanga Hokkaido Sapporo - Japan)

[Jake]

Well at least Siena had a decent run after that and proved that they were a legitimate team and oh they lost their very next game nevermind

They led the top seed in the entire tournament with 5 minutes left to play. I'd say they proved plenty.

 

[LitlBuck]

To say that BJ Mullens would not be better off in terms of development of his game, to stay in college another year and then come out would be crazy...There is a legit chance that he could go lower than where KK when last year...He could possibly end up very late first round or slip to the second round...
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Totally agree with you. I think that KK at this time last year had more to offer an NBA team than does Mullens. KK had size but also was a pretty good shooter away from the basket. This is something that Mullens as yet to prove that the college level. I will agree that he seems to run the court pretty well but it also seems to get fatigued pretty quickly. I really don't see him going in the first round of the NBA draft especially after reading what Pitino said about him. He would benefit greatly from another year of college ball but I just don't see it happening.

 

[Jake]

Are they that desperate where leaving now rather than waiting one more year is worth 8 million dollars? His second contract if he left after this year will be significantly less, because right now it's going to be awhile before he's playing significant minutes.

I don't know. Whatever. It's just my opinion but either way he and his family will be very well off very soon.

Unless he blows out a knee playing college hoops next year. I see your point but there's a risk to it.

I'd love him to stay but where he's being projected in the draft is hard to pass up. It's even harder when your family has financial issues.

 

[LitlBuck]

Regarding the family situation. I guess that I am sort of tired of hearing about how bad the family financial situation currently is. I am sure that everyone of us could improve our quality of life if we got a couple million dollars. I mean it's not like his family is broke. There are a lad of other families in this nation that are probably worse off than his family. I guess the point is how much does he value a college education because I think his family would still be able to survive. They have so far so what would another year or two be. This will be my last post regarding this situation because I do not want to turn this thread into a social economic thread.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

They had the lead against Louisville with 7 minutes left in the game. Sure, they still lost the game but they hung around a lot longer than most people thought they would. I'd say they had a decent run.

that.....and watching OSU struggle with that weak "press" that Siena was running, I can't imagine the troubles they would have had with Louisville's.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

BuckeyeXtra - The Columbus Dispatch : Off the streets

This is a must-read for anyone. This completely changed my mind as to whether B.J. should be a one and done player. If he does go, I certainly would not hold it against him for what he has gone through just to get where he is today. B.J., you are the man

Regarding the family situation. I guess that I am sort of tired of hearing about how bad the family financial situation currently is. I am sure that everyone of us could improve our quality of life if we got a couple million dollars. I mean it's not like his family is broke. There are a lad of other families in this nation that are probably worse off than his family. I guess the point is how much does he value a college education because I think his family would still be able to survive. They have so far so what would another year or two be. This will be my last post regarding this situation because I do not want to turn this thread into a social economic thread.

 

[LitlBuck]

Okay, I will explain myself. Let it's just put it this way about a week ago I talked to someone who knows a little about Mullens situation and he told me that there was quite a bit of "fluff" in that article.

 

[3074326]

Regarding the family situation. I guess that I am sort of tired of hearing about how bad the family financial situation currently is. I am sure that everyone of us could improve our quality of life if we got a couple million dollars. I mean it's not like his family is broke. There are a lad of other families in this nation that are probably worse off than his family. I guess the point is how much does he value a college education because I think his family would still be able to survive. They have so far so what would another year or two be. This will be my last post regarding this situation because I do not want to turn this thread into a social economic thread.

I don't think he'll be sticking around long enough to get a degree unless he gets a career-ending injury. So, probably not much. When you're pretty much guaranteed to get millions without a degree, I doubt the education is a big deal. :tongue2:

That's how I'd view it anyways. Maybe BJ is different. Doesn't look like it though. haha

 

[Steve19]

The problem with kids is that they don't listen.

BJ may have been a top lottery pick when the year began, but to be very frank, his play seems to have convinced pro scouts differently. When bloody Pitino is saying that going pro would be his "worst" choice right now (and Pitino must have watched a lot of Buckeye games getting ready for the NCAA) says a lot.

If BJ is smart he will manage his own brand for the longer term. Once you get a label in the NBA, you don't get past it very quickly.

We have seen a few Buckeyes go pro in recent years when they would have benefitted from another year in college ball. Of all of them, this frosh may be the least ready for the NBA.

The assumption in his head, and a lot of posters in this thread, is that he is still a lottery pick. If he sticks around and develops, he may well be. Staying in school another year wouldn't mean losing anything. In fact, it could lead to much more money in the long run.

Like I said, kids don't listen. He could have a bright future, but going pro now reduces the chance of that a lot.

Whatever he decides, I wish him the best of luck.

 

[muffler dragon]

Okay, I will explain myself. Let it's just put it this way about a week ago I talked to someone who knows a little about Mullens situation and he told me that there was quite a bit of "fluff" in that article.

Fluff or not, I wouldn't wish his home life on anyone.

 

[Meyer]

Or the question could be "How long do I want to watch my family struggle?"

I don't know the situation, but from the way it sounds that's an appropriate question.

I'd love to see him come back and think he would benefit by doing so, but if he leaves I'm not going to hold it against him no matter how he performs. Not saying you (or anyone) is going to, just explaining my view.

Oh okay. I definitely won't hold anything against him for leaving. It's just my personal opinion that he would be better off as a player, socially, education wise, and in terms of money if he came back for one more year and became the player that had him as the number one overall pick coming into this year.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

The problem with kids is that they don't listen.

Unfortunately, that has been so since humans started walking upright. Plus, this being the age of instant gratification, eveyone wants it all now...never mind that "all" can be a lot more in only a year or so.

I haven't paid attention to what recent draft picks have made, but I'd assume that Mullens right now won't be picked higher than 20th, which according to this 2009-2010 rookie pay scale would be worth $3,544,500. If he stayed for his second year and blew up to where he'd be a top-10 pick for 2010-2011, his rookie salary would be at least $5,827,800, which is $2,283,300 more...and that's without adjusting up the #10 pick's salary from the current scale. If he were to make it to the top 5 after his sophomore year, his rookie salary would be nearly triple of what he'll probably get this year.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

Unfortunately, that has been so since humans started walking upright. Plus, this being the age of instant gratification, eveyone wants it all now...never mind that "all" can be a lot more in only a year or so.

Originally Posted by Steve19
The problem with kids is that they don't listen.

and not to be a jerk but i was the same way. and as i recall i believe it was you steve who mentioned at a similar age you were throwing rocks/bricks at armed soliders/kids in the national guard.

 

[jwinslow]

I'd assume that Mullens right now won't be picked higher than 20th, which according to this 2009-2010 rookie pay scale would be worth $3,544,500. If he stayed for his second year and blew up to where he'd be a top-10 pick for 2010-2011, his rookie salary would be at least $5,827,800, which is $2,283,300 more

Actually, he'd have virtually identical earnings in that scenario, and would make his family wait another year to get help.

09 contract | '10 | '11 . | Total

---- 0 ------ | 1.9 | 2.18 | 3.75 mill - staying another year, and becoming a top-10 pick
---- 1.09 -- | 1.8 | 1.26 | 3.54 mill - going pro now, drafted #20 overall

He's also 1 year closer to his second contract, which is the money maker in bball.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

and not to be a jerk but i was the same way. and as i recall i believe it was you steve who mentioned at a similar age you were throwing rocks/bricks at armed soliders/kids in the national guard.

I was sort of a know-it-all at 18/19, but I'd like to think that even back then if someone would've sat my dumb ass down and showed me the numbers that I'd have listened.