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MililaniBuckeye said:
When was the last time you saw me call tibor anything? Oh yeah, this tibor guy you love to stick up for has been banned... :roll1:
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Shit, ask them to a search coupling MililaniBuckeye as username with tibor as keyword. Not much subject matter comes up, I'm guessing.

Anyhow - this was not meant to be a point fingers thread - so glass houses and stones rules apply.

Merry Christmas and Good Will to All Men (And Women for that matter).
 
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As far as being a closed group and tg05. It leads to two thoughts in my mind...

1. I think it takes a special person to be able to make it on this board. I would be surprised if any high schooler has been able to do so (aside from Taz :biggrin:). It's a fine line to walk, I think the site does a pretty good job though.

2. I would like for posters to have to come up with 50 post in the open forums before they can post elsewhere. However, if they prove to have insider ties they could send a PM to skip this process. I wouldn't be opposed to after the 50 post that they have to have at least 1 buckeye leaf for rep to have their account upgraded to being able to use the other forums. Some might feel this would create a more 'closed' mind but I think it would force people to see how the board works a little better, get involved, and not be an idiot to rush their 50 post.
 
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Good idea wrestler, although I don't know with Clarity so busy if all those additions are feasible. Hopefully with all the new mods we can weed out idiot posters quicker than ever, because I know they can be an annoyance to all members. Fortunately, most people who join BP are intelligent and thoughtful.

As for TG05, he still shows his immaturity often, but he has drastically improved from when he joined.
 
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BuckWrestler141 said:
2. I would like for posters to have to come up with 50 post in the open forums before they can post elsewhere. However, if they prove to have insider ties they could send a PM to skip this process. I wouldn't be opposed to after the 50 post that they have to have at least 1 buckeye leaf for rep to have their account upgraded to being able to use the other forums. Some might feel this would create a more 'closed' mind but I think it would force people to see how the board works a little better, get involved, and not be an idiot to rush their 50 post.
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I don't think this should be a two tiered thing-to be honest-I doubt I have made 50 posts total in the football forum over the course of the year. Individuals can have great back and forths on the political board, but don't see the need to chime in on threads as to why Tressel rules, or Troy Smith stepped it up, or who will be in the 2 deep at LB next year.
 
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Wow.

I've been gone for a little while, and came back to this. I'll repeat. Wow.

I know I've been out of it for a little while, but I really haven't seen any racial slurs. Can't say as I recall any context in which "homo" terms were thown about that could possibly be construed as serious. So I've obviously missed stuff. Like I said, I know I've been gone for a while, but I have a ton on my plate right now, so I guess if this stuff has become a problem, let's fix it.

The one thing I would like to address is the whole "bashing of noobs" thing. I don't see it, and I don't know that anything should change. Yeah, some people get thumped early and often, and sometimes probably too hard and/or too often, but this discussion has very likely fixed that problem. We need to remember who and what we are. BP has evolved into a site which contains the most knowledgable base of posters out of all the fan sites. If people want to talk serious football, they come here. Killing off repetitive threads and stopping ignorant posters from shouting from the rooftops is a huge part of the reason why. We simply don't put up with ignorance and stupidity. Other sites do. Other sites have stagnated to the point where I can't even read the threads, because only 10% of the posts are intelligent. Here, only 10% of the posts are NOT intelligent...and that is because the masses don't put up with the ignorance. I honestly don't feel noobs come in here and get bashed. Others have mentioned Peaches. Well, what about Steve19? He has made a hell of an entrance, and it's been a good one. TG05 gets bashed because he doesn't think before he posts, not because he's a noob. The guy has over 2000 posts (in what, 3 months?) for cryin' out loud. I understand that "elitist" reputation exists, but I don't want to see the quality of this site suffer because of an (IMO) unwarranted reputation.
 
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Congrats to all of our new mods... well, except for methomps. Really Clarity, did you have to go that far? As long as I don't see him refering himself as Clarity's #1 Mod I will be fine :biggrin:
 
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In my opinion, the biggest issue with BP is the treatment of newbies. I personally don't like the 50 post rule, Wrestler, but I can see where you're coming from.

Luckily, I eased into posting by spending a few months reading, or posting VERY lightly before becoming more serious. I've tried to keep things in the appropriate forums, use the search function, or refraining from hyjacking. However, it isn't always a walk in the park. Still, I love this site and have talked a few other people to join. Some of them have learned the rules very well and become more dedicated posters than I am (Zurp...), but some have run away with their tails between their legs. That's disappointing, to say the least. I wish I could get them back to BP, but it's not going to happen.

There SHOULD be a difference between a newbie who is flaming and a newbie who is trying to learn the ropes of the site rules. However, the treatment seems to be fairly similar in these two cases. I've seen plenty of newbies that have been hammered into the red. When I look up their previous posts, it appears as if their crime was posting off-topic, starting a duplicate thread, or (my LEAST FAVORITE) disagreeing with a senior poster. That one bugs the crap out of me. Why intimidate a newbie because he/she has a different opinion? Why do some BP-ers think they're smarter or better because of a post count? Ugh. I'm not at all saying that all high-posters are this way, but this mentality is out there.

Okay, that's it. I should stop before my blood gets going. Bottom line, this site kicks ass, and the fact that we take a step back to analyze how to make things better adds to the overall quality of Buckeye Planet.
 
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I haven't noticed what Yertle is describing. If senior members are really dinging noobs for nothing but disagreeing with them, then those senior members need to take the stick out of their behinds. But, I still say that this is a premiere Buckeye site because of the knowledgable and insightful posters. There needs to be some type of control in place so that we aren't overrun and become 90% fluff, like other sites.
 
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Yertle said:
Why do some BP-ers think they're smarter or better because of a post count? Ugh. I'm not at all saying that all high-posters are this way, but this mentality is out there.
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I've had some heated debates over football and sometimes catch myself from trying to over-analyze sometimes, but I'm not sure I agree with the post count deal. Many of the higher post counts are not even football related. For instance, most of my posts come from recruiting updates and in-game threads...being OOS, I need to have conversation with tOSU fans during a game and I know there are plenty of other posters who do the same thing. However, I do know that as long as I've been on message boards, the post count debate has come up. As the saying goes, quality over quantity...I do believe there is some good quality in those high numbers.

Then again, I am approaching 10K and know I am entirely full of shit. :biggrin:
 
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Yeah, again Grad21 and FKA, my comment wasn't supposed to be directed at all (or even most) high posters. It's only a few, and most are some mid-range posters who flex their muscles to newbies. And, just to reiterate, I haven't been caught up in it, but some of my friends (who I tried to get to become regulars) got in the mix and won't be back here again.

Since that time, I've tried to investigate into how newbies (fewer than 20 posts) have loads of rubies, and more times than not, it's stuff that I would consider minor. Of course, I can't tell who is dinging them, but their posts typically are repeated threads or disagreeing with the "regulars".

Also, don't get me wrong. This isn't a big deal, but while we're on the subject of making this a better place, I wanted to share my idea of our biggest area for improvement.
 
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Cool, I'm definitely glad you brought it up...

As for the newbs and rep, the rep sticks are getting too heavy for sure. If I rep a newb, he/she will have 5-6 medals...and about half if I ding. That brings about a measure of responsibility that I don't like as it kinda defeats the purpose for me.
 
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21 is full of shit?

Damn, hitched my wagon to the wrong horse.. :p

Edit- and NOW I find out you can't lift your rep stick either? Wuss... :p


I was on a different vBull board last night, looking for stuff on mixing boards... anyway, they had a "rep power" icon right above the chicklet line... Dont know if that would get us anywhere, but might be something to explore.

Seems to me though, as Rep increases, the relative amounts are still the same... My first positive rep was somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 or 50 points or some such. Relative to the big dogs of the time (who were in the 1,000s) it's the same as if I repped a noob now, I think. Maybe it's time to restructer the medals? Last time that happened there was a rep parade, but maybe this time it will be different since we know what happens when the new sys. gets maxed...
 
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