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Brady "XLLL" Hoke (Head Coach San Diego State)

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NFBuck said:
We haven't seen much indicating this year is significantly better so far...
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We all knew Kiel was a good QB. Last year we made bad QBs look good. Keenan Reynolds was a decent QB and he only passed for 10 yards (and there were a few coverage sacks).
Brewer's scrambling ability is what made the plays. When he broke containment, the secondary wasn't able to keep on the receivers. When he was in the pocket, he was kept in check.
Reardon threw 3 picks.


I'm not saying the defense is fixed, but the defense is vastly improved over last year's
 
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NFBuck said:
Morris was getting his ass kicked for 3+ quarters to the point he was clearly favoring his left leg. At this point, even the announcers began calling for Hoke to pull him for his own safety. Hoke leaves him in. Shortly after, he suffers a wicked/illegal helmet-helmet hit from a varmint defender. He gets up clearly woozy, and practically collapses into one of his lineman's arms. He regains composure and waves off a substitution. He should not have that call. He stays in (I think) one more play and is pulled.

Gardner enters and gets his helmet knocked off after three plays, meaning he has to sit out a play. 3rd string QB Bellomy cannot find his helmet. Instead of calling a timeout to allow Gardner to return, they send a woozy Morris back out. It should be noted by this time, even the crowd can sense the kid isn't right and has been booing with great gusto. The announcers are going crazy as well. After the game, Morris leaves the field on a cart. Hoke claims post-game that he didn't know Morris was badly hurt.

As bad as all of that sounds, it played out worse in real-time. Just a horrific sequence and a real low for not just scUM, but football in general given all of the controversy surrounding head injuries. It was the literal death knell of Brady Hoke's coaching career. The only question now is does scUM have the balls to [Mark May]can him now for gross negligence.
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If you watch the replay of when Morris goes back in the game, even the official looks over to the sideline and says something to the effect of "Do you want a time out??"
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
If you watch the replay of when Morris goes back in the game, even the official looks over to the sideline and says something to the effect of "Do you want a time out??"
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Yep. It seemed like EVERYBODY, except Hoke and the scUM coaching staff knew Morris was not in any condition to play. If they did know, then it was the worst kind of negligence to send him back out. Any way you cut it, negligence or ignorance, it's a fireable offense.
 
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LostLassie said:
Asking because I don't know the answer: Have we ever kept a player on the field with a broken bone?
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Not sure about broken bones, but OSU coaches have played clearly injured players before: TP in the Sugar Bowl, Braxton in the Orange are two examples. Pryor and Brax weren't being sent in against their will and clearly wanted to be out there, but in hindsight it could be argued continuing to play Miller against Clemson was detrimental.

If you read recaps of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl against Miami, about half the players on the field (for both teams) had suffered mild concussions or worse. Fox, Nickey, and Krenzel have all mentioned since that it was the most violent football game they've ever participated in. Krenzel was absolutely obliterated on the Sean Taylor INT and likely wouldn't have ever gone back in the game under the modern concussion protocols.
 
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Dryden said:
Not sure about broken bones, but OSU coaches have played clearly injured players before: TP in the Sugar Bowl, Braxton in the Orange are two examples.

If you read recaps of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl against Miami, about half the players on the field (for both teams) had suffered mild concussions or worse. Fox, Nickey, and Krenzel have all mentioned since that it was the most violent football game they've ever participated in. Krenzel was absolutely obliterated on the Sean Taylor INT and likely wouldn't have ever gone back in the game under the modern concussion protocols.
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Yep. It's certainly happened in the past. But in the last few years, it's become the hot-button issue in football, and protocols are in place to prevent exactly that situation. In fairness, I don't think it's been confirmed that Morris had a concussion. But after that brutal hit, he was practically out on his feet and was allowed to remain in the game. Plus, his mobility was severely limited behind a sieve OL by a leg injury.
 
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Can't imagine any Buckeye fan wanting him to stay just to rack up more Ws. Granted the last 2 regime have sure helped in the quest to even the all time series and pull in front but the fun is going out of it fast. I hope someone like Harbaugh, etc can come in, help bring respect to the conference and elevate the rivalry back to where it should be. Oh and someone who understands player safety, personal dietary restraint and a general respect for the spoken word would be nice as well.
 
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cincibuck said:
I dunno. Last games for fired coaches can sometimes get a team fired up to do something beyond their normal ability - like for instance Earl Bruce's last win, down by 14 at half (?) the Buckeye's came back to win one for the coach. There is some talent on this team - and the same Gardner that threw more interceptions than TDs put on one hell of a show in last year's match up - they could come into the game sky high and "get real lucky."
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Somewhat in agreement. Earl, however, was a hell of a better coach than Flintstone, and that team had way more talent on it than this Michigan team. Spielman's leadership alone was worth 10 points. I don't see any Spielmans on that UM team.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Can't imagine any Buckeye fan wanting him to stay just to rack up more Ws. Granted the last 2 regime have sure helped in the quest to even the all time series and pull in front but the fun is going out of it fast. I hope someone like Harbaugh, etc can come in, help bring respect to the conference and elevate the rivalry back to where it should be. Oh and someone who understands player safety, personal dietary restraint and a general respect for the spoken word would be nice as well.
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That's where I'm at. I'm happy for the last dozen years because they've undone the Cooper fiasco. Looking at the series record since Bo took over, Woody and Earl were an even .500. Since Bo took over, we're now 1 game over .500. It just hasn't felt like much of a rivalry for the last 25 years because you almost knew who was going to win every game. Time for this to become a real rivalry on the field again.
 
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From mgoblog:

In Michigan’s 67-65, 3-OT thriller over Illinois in 2010, Rodriguez pulled Robinson after a hard hit during the 3rd quarter. “He was dizzy and had a headache,” explained Rodriguez, extra cautious his star player might have a concussion. The context is even more important. Rodriguez entered that game 5-3 after 3 consecutive losses to #17 Michigan State, #15 Iowa and at Penn State. Under fire by the media before the season and intense scrutiny by Brandon during the season, Rodriguez pulled the most electric player in college football for his safety in a must-win game. He recruited Robinson, developed him, and above all protected him over his job. If only he was a Michigan Man too.
 
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