Bitching about the 2004 Season

[Jaxbuck]

This feels like an intervention and JaxBucks your the facilitator with visual aids as examples of how bad OSU is and we fans have not yet realized we have a problem.
Jaxbucks , Hi I am Storm and I am a Buckaholic. I admit I have a problem in recognizing we are bad .... Nooo Nooo Jax you can't make me beleive it !!! NOOOOOOooo !!!!

j/k Jax just teasin :)

LOL, Denial aint just a river in Egypt boys.

 

[StoRMinBrutus]

Hey I find denial and laughter is the best policy when our beloved Buckeyes are in a state such as they are right now.
The only thing you can do is keep on cheering for the Buckeyes and wish for the best and revel in the fact that we still have the Best Band around

p.s. gotta love the stats though Jax .. thanks :)

 

[StoRMinBrutus]

So Now what ?? What can the Offense as a whole do??

I know there are so many things but now that its been clear they have alot of challenges. What can the Buckeye coaches and O-line and Offense as a whole do to improve ???

:osu: Go to a very simple offensive line set and go back to the more simple drive blocking scheme and checking off verbal assignments as some have stated ?? Will that Help ??
:osu: Put in less experienced but younger talent like Mitchum for the future ?? just grasping at straws. I am just asking.
:osu: Have whatever QB out there only throw the short under routes to at least build on the high percentage passing game ??
:osu: I know the Coaches have faild to prepare the teams properly but what constructive answer can be done to improve this team for the rest of this season and next year. I have run out of ideas.

 

[strohs]

start blocking someone?

 

[StoRMinBrutus]

hahaha If it was that easy, you and I could go out on the field and do better

 

[ScarletArrow]

Process of elimination

In order to consolidate our problems and solutions - here is a list of all we need to do to get back on track.

Problem: JT is a bad OC.
Solution: Hire Norm Chow.

Problem: Snyder is a bad DC.
Solution: Hire Fred Pagac.

Problem: Bollman is a bad position coach.
Solution: Hire Jim Hueber.

Problem: Johnson is a bad S&C coach.
Solution: Hire Bill Phillips.

Problem: Dick Tressel is a bad position coach.
Solution: Hire MoC.

Problem: Players aren't motivated.
Solution: Hire Anthony Robbins.

Problem: JT can't develop talent.
Solution: Hire Mack Brown.

Problem: Lydell loss can't run.
Solution: Start Pittman and implement the spread offense.

Problem: Zwick can't throw
Solution: Start Smith, Boeckman, Ginn, or Nugent and implement a power offense.

Problem: DL can't defend the run
Solution: Play 8-9 men in the box

Problem: Secondary can't defend the pass
Solution: Drop 8-9 men in pass coverage

 

[strohs]

hahaha If it was that easy, you and I could go out on the field and do better

I doubt I could, too small, but I sure as hell would give it my best!

 

[MegaWoody]

Talent, Motivation and Gameplan

There are three essential ingrediants to winning football games. You need talent, you need motivation and you need a good gameplan.

tOSU clearly has the talent -- thanks to good recruiting by the coaching staff.

tOSU seems to have the motivation -- great players, who are used to winning, like to keep winning. They are embarrassed and angry when they don't. It's possible that tOSU team is not sufficiently motivated -- we can't get into their brains to know for sure -- but it's unlikely.

So, that leaves gameplan. This element is entirely the responsibility of the coaching staff, the head coach in particular. Throughout most of this season it has been difficult to tell exactly what tOSU gameplan is. Are they smash-mouth runners? ...spread formation fun-and-gunners? What's the plan exactly, anyway?

The one group that seems to know exactly what tOSU gameplan is are opposing coaches. They have had no trouble at all analyzing Buckeye tendencies and devising strategies to attack them successfully. On offense and defense, tOSU has become so predictable that much weaker BigTen teams, who have had three-plus years now to learn Tresselball, are able to counteract anything and everything tOSU does. It's slightly tougher for out of conference opponents, who only play tOSU every decade or so. But for Big Ten coaches, there is absolutely no mystery to Tresselball. It has become obvious to diagnose and simple to defeat.

I have faith that JT will adapt and adjust. He's too smart not to. At some level he has to know that, as the old saying goes, "Insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting a different outcome". He may be obsessive/compulsive, but he ain't crazy. Is he?

 

[slobberknocker]

I know there are so many things but now that its been clear they have alot of challenges. What can the Buckeye coaches and O-line and Offense as a whole do to improve ???

:osu: Go to a very simple offensive line set and go back to the more simple drive blocking scheme and checking off verbal assignments as some have stated ?? Will that Help ??
:osu: Put in less experienced but younger talent like Mitchum for the future ?? just grasping at straws. I am just asking.
:osu: Have whatever QB out there only throw the short under routes to at least build on the high percentage passing game ??
:osu: I know the Coaches have faild to prepare the teams properly but what constructive answer can be done to improve this team for the rest of this season and next year. I have run out of ideas.

stormin we usally agree but our oline blocking scheme is simple we don't move anyone.

Yes our young guys should see more time

our passing game sucks period why throw a five yard curl or hitch win you need 10 or 15 yards. I haven't seen a wr catch a pass in stride since holmes caught those bombs against marshall. NO YACS

put everyones job up for grabs period nobody's job should be safe every postion and all the coaches :2004: :2004:

 

[slobberknocker]

at least it would mix things up

 

[DaBuckMD]

On the positive side, this is forcing OSU to address the offensive issue. We have not been a good offensive team the last few years, and the defense has been able to make up for it. Still looking for signs of improvement though...

 

[slobberknocker]

jaxbuck I have to disagree Jt's system doesn't let young qb's make mistakes while being aggressive everything is geared towards not commiting turnovers, and making sure we get at least 3 points how do you learn unless you go out use your god given talent run around and make PLAYS and mistakes, I think Jt has taken the aggressiveness out of our players by demanding no mistakes and no turnovers, so we are always back on our heels not being aggressive.

 

[SC"U"Mbuster]

We have young, talented players, but the coaching staff is not allowing them to grow and develop as players. What's happening is that all of our young players who are capable of being playmakers, are afraid of making mistakes, as a result of which they are playing scared. They need to learn how to make plays and then live with any mistakes they make. As they learn how to do this, they will mature and start minimizing their mistakes while building on their confidence in making big plays. As long as the coaches shackle them and don't allow them to make plays, they are not going to develop.

This is at the core of the "playing not to lose" philosophy that our coaches love so much. It works well once you've got battle-tested veteran players, who know how to bust out a big play while not making a bone-headed one. With the young guns, if all they're trying to do is "not lose the game" they aren't going to fully explore their capabilities.

 

[TallIndian]

I have been an avid Tressel Supporter ....

but this disaster needs the blame pasted at the top ....

and that is Tress ......

you don't call the plays and not have a true Offensive co-ordinator and not take the heat for an offense like this.

you don't hire your brother and have one of the most pathetic running games in the nation and not expect to take some flak

You don't hand pick you recruits and have the whole team suck and not take
the heat for this.

I love the guy, but he needs to right the ship ....
and that comes from the top dog too.

I am not calling for his head on a pike ... I am saying he has to take the responsibility and make some changes.

28 -2 .... sounds great

0-4 last four Big Ten Games ..... uh-oh

 

[SC"U"Mbuster]

On the positive side, this is forcing OSU to address the offensive issue. We have not been a good offensive team the last few years, and the defense has been able to make up for it. Still looking for signs of improvement though...

Hopefully they will address our offensive woes soon, and not wait until the end of this dismal season. What's been especially saddening with our teams under this new regime, is that our offense simply cannot win games by itself, as consistently as the defense does. How many of you believe that we actually have a chance in games where we fall behind by 10+ points at the half? Our offense (and lately, even the defense) assumes the fetal position in the second half of those games, and it's over. I'd like to see the offense return the favor and bail out our defense a lot more than they currently do. There's too much talent to waste like this...