Use your foot?Ok but I’m already ready to shove our new OC out of the door, now what do I do?
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Use your foot?Ok but I’m already ready to shove our new OC out of the door, now what do I do?
Yeah, but BC just sucks as a program. They don’t provide many resources for recruiting and as a result, are just a marginal bowl team. I get he’s probably making more money and he wants to be near his family. But that job is hardly a long term proposition.BOB intended for this to be a 1 year position anyways....wanted to be a HC again. There's no way he could've foreseen Hafley leaving the BC job vacant....all that went down after he had accepted OSU OC position....and I said it in a different thread, but when a BC job becomes open, alwyas look at OSU's coaching staff and figure someone is a likely target. BC athletic department loves hiring from OSU athletics.
Another huge possibility for what slowed things down.All that is coming from the BC end of reporting. There seems to be at least one source at BC feeding info to reporters who really wants O’Brien. It seems like the process has slowed down since those reports were hottest, either way.
Maybe they were discussing contractual details and both sides backed away because 1.) O’Brien has a stellar resume and ego to back it up and 2.) BC is a cesspool that is not putting resources behind a successful football program.
They need a young dynamic recruiter to do more with less. Not an established figure to lead a fully functional battle station.
Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part, but the fit makes absolutely zero sense for BC and all the sense at Ohio State—outside of the personal family health concerns.
But again, maybe the contract details were reviewed and O’Brien decided being at a cesspool career suicide position at BC, that’s probably not going to last anyway, is not worth it even to be closer to family, and staying at Ohio State for a year or two and launching to a HC position that’s actually desirable is much better long term.
But maybe BC interviews its other candidates and decides committing to throwing resources into it (Schiano/Rutgers style) is the best move and Bob reconsiders. End of the day, both sides have factors they need to weigh and things definitely appear to have slowed way down as BC interviews other candidates this week.
Uh, yeah, I’d say actively making it harder to do what he wants—get back to the NFL—is a snag.Another potential snag was clause that BC wanted in the contract, penalizing O'Brien if he leaves for an NFL job.
BC was reportedly asking for more money in the NFL penalty than the 5-year offer (reportedly between 15 and 20 million) that O'Brien received.
Especially when Dallas, Philadelphia, Giants and Bears might all be open next year.Another huge possibility for what slowed things down.
A Jersey Guy: BOB would be a game changer for BC
Bill O'Brien should be the next football coach at Boston College. Bill O'Brien will be the next football coach at Boston College It should have been wrapped up,www.si.com
Uh, yeah, I’d say actively making it harder to do what he wants—get back to the NFL—is a snag.
Get the absolute fuck out of here with this bull shitSuper Bowl-winning offensive coordinators Josh McDaniels
Bill O’Brien to Boston College Isn’t A Done Deal, But Ohio State Will Have Options If It Needs A New Offensive Coordinator
If Bill O’Brien becomes Boston College’s head coach, Ohio State should have plenty of viable options to replace him as offensive coordinator.www.elevenwarriors.comBILL O’BRIEN TO BOSTON COLLEGE ISN’T A DONE DEAL, BUT OHIO STATE WILL HAVE OPTIONS IF IT NEEDS A NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR
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CANDLE, KELLY, JOHNSON AMONG NAMES TO WATCH
While it’s never ideal to be thrust into a coaching search more than a month after the end of the season, Ohio State wouldn’t be starting from scratch in replacing O’Brien. Any coach who was a candidate for the job the first time around could re-emerge as a candidate, especially if they remain in the same situation they were in before Ohio State hired O’Brien.
One such candidate could be Toledo head coach Jason Candle, who reportedly drew serious consideration for the job before O’Brien was hired. While Candle has been linked to several Power 4 head coaching jobs (including the Boston College job) over the past two months, he has yet to land another job, which could make him consider taking a coordinator position at a major program.
Ohio State could give Candle a pay raise, as he made just $1.125 million at Toledo last season, and a successful run as OSU’s OC could improve Candle’s prospects of landing a future head coaching job at a bigger program. He has never coached in a major conference and has only two years of experience as a quarterbacks coach, but he is an Ohio lifer whose offenses at Toledo have consistently ranked among the best in the MAC.
A potential upside to making a new hire in February would be that it could make the Ohio State job more appealing to coaches who might have been holding out for a potential NFL offensive coordinator job the first time around.
That group could include UCLA head coach Chip Kelly, who was recently linked to the Washington Commanders’ and Las Vegas Raiders’ offensive coordinator jobs. It appears unlikely Kelly will land an NFL offensive coordinator job this offseason, however, as the Commanders hired Kliff Kingsbury while the Raiders are expected to hire Luke Getsy.
Leaving a job as a Big Ten head coach to become a Big Ten offensive coordinator would certainly be an unconventional move, but Kelly appears to be looking for an exit ramp out of Westwood. He would check the same boxes that O’Brien did, having been a head coach and offensive play-caller in both the NFL and college, and has a close relationship with Day dating back to when Kelly coached Day as New Hampshire’s offensive coordinator.
Hiring Kelly wouldn’t come cheaply, as Ohio State would have to pay a $1.5 million buyout to UCLA, but it certainly wouldn’t feel like a downgrade if Ohio State went from O’Brien to Kelly.
Another coach who was connected to the job before Ohio State hired O’Brien was former Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson, who was fired by the Eagles four days after Ohio State hired O’Brien. While he’s never been a head coach like O’Brien, Johnson has been an offensive coordinator in both the NFL and college; in his most recent job as a collegiate offensive coordinator, Johnson led a Florida offense that ranked ninth in the FBS in total yards per game and 13th nationally in points per game in 2020.
Johnson’s lone season as the Eagles’ offensive coordinator fell short of expectations, and he’s still looking for a new job as a result. But the Eagles still ranked in the NFL’s top eight in both points and yards per game in 2023, and the 36-year-old former Utah quarterback was viewed as a rising star in the industry before this past season.
OTHER LOGICAL FITS
Super Bowl-winning offensive coordinators Josh McDaniels and Frank Reich are both still looking for jobs after they were fired as NFL head coaches this past fall, so they could both be worth calling, though neither of them has ever been a full-time assistant coach at the collegiate level.
National championship-winning offensive coordinator Dan Mullen previously worked alongside Day when Day was a graduate assistant at Florida, though it’s uncertain whether the current ESPN analyst is interested in a return to coaching.
Akron head coach Joe Moorhead was an excellent offensive coordinator at both Penn State and Oregon and had a salary of just $620,000 last season, so he’s another coach with both head coaching and offensive play-calling experience that Ohio State could make a run at if it needs to replace O’Brien.
If the Buckeyes can’t get Kelly, it would be hard to replace O’Brien with another coach who has experience as both a head coach and offensive coordinator at both the NFL and collegiate levels. But there are plenty of coaches Ohio State could pursue that check at least a couple of those boxes.
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I think we have different definitions of “huge opportunity.”
I think we have different definitions of “huge opportunity.”
AG is now saying that this story has legs…Something to think about when it comes to BoB staying at OSU. Al Washington possibly being chosen over BoB and coming at a much more affordable price.
All that is coming from the BC end of reporting. There seems to be at least one source at BC feeding info to reporters who really wants O’Brien. It seems like the process has slowed down since those reports were hottest, either way.
Maybe they were discussing contractual details and both sides backed away because 1.) O’Brien has a stellar resume and ego to back it up and 2.) BC is a cesspool that is not putting resources behind a successful football program.
They need a young dynamic recruiter to do more with less. Not an established figure to lead a fully functional battle station.
Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part, but the fit makes absolutely zero sense for BC and all the sense at Ohio State—outside of the personal family health concerns.
But again, maybe the contract details were reviewed and O’Brien decided being at a cesspool career suicide position at BC, that’s probably not going to last anyway, is not worth it even to be closer to family, and staying at Ohio State for a year or two and launching to a HC position that’s actually desirable is much better long term.
But maybe BC interviews its other candidates and decides committing to throwing resources into it (Schiano/Rutgers style) is the best move and Bob reconsiders. End of the day, both sides have factors they need to weigh and things definitely appear to have slowed way down as BC interviews other candidates this week.
wearatophat 2 HOURS AGO
Reliable Rivals poster:Have a friend that went to BC and he is pretty involved as an alum, specifically donations to the athletic department.
He said the negotiations with BoB are pretty stalled out right now. He wants more money than Hafley, wants more money for his staff budget, more money for his recruiting budget, and a promise/pledge whatever to start seriously upgrading facilities. He doesn't want to go there and fail due to lack of institutional support. BC is scrambling to see if they can raise the money, which is how my friend found all this out, and basically said it is looking like a longshot unless a miracle donation comes around or BoB lowers his demands.
Not an insider, but think I’ve posted here that I’m pretty close to this one. Obriens are a nice family that has been under a lot of pressure given their sons condition. He’s vastly outlived the life expectancy for his disease. His wife is one of my sister in laws best friends. The NFL life plus his son has been a ver difficult road.
Per his wife they are negotiating, and info here seems accurate. He wants the buy out from BC to be less than they asked. He does want the job, and has been completely transparent with Ryan Day. NFL buy out and staff money are issues. There seems to be a drop dead date from Day where this needs to be over one way or the other. BOB HATED Saban and Bama time…already loves OSU. They’ve been “first class”. Will be done by EOW