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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
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Mrstickball;1995170; said:
I think Toronto would be a great add. My only question would be how long it'd take for their football to become viable as a B1G team.

If they could, with reasonable assurances, become D1A-worthy (even if on the level of Indiana or Minnesota), it should be a smart, out-of-the-box addition.
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BTHC.

Once that gets going, I think hockey will become a revenue sport for the conference and they'll have it on their own network. I don't even give a shit about hockey outside of the Olympics and I'm excited for it.

Add Notre Dame and Toronto to that mix and it can become a very big deal. It's a potential market that is not within reach of any of the other BCS conferences.
 
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jlb1705;1995182; said:
$180,000 oughta grease wheels.
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It's less the initial movement... it's about making the NCAA an international entity... that has implications all the way from scholarships to taxes to regulations to just about any day to day operation

though I think the potential financial windfall and general mind explosions of our friends down south would make it all worth it
 
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rampageripster;1995183; said:
It's less the initial movement... it's about making the NCAA an international entity... that has implications all the way from scholarships to taxes to regulations to just about any day to day operation

though I think the potential financial windfall and general mind explosions of our friends down south would make it all worth it
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The NCAA is already in Canada. Simon Fraser University joined in 2009 and is in the Great Northwest Athletic Conference in Division II.

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IronBuckI;1995186; said:
The NCAA is already in Canada. Simon Fraser University joined in 2009 and is in the Great Northwest Athletic Conference in Division II.

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Didn't know he started his own university. :tongue2:

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A couple points, not to pee in everyones' cheerios, but ...

1) I have been lead to believe that Canadian college hockey is not very good, or popular. Anybody with talent goes to the CJHL and gets paid right out of high school. Or elementary school.

2) Toronto's on-campus stadium for football seats ~5,000 people. They're playing a sport with different rules (larger field dimensions, 12 players, only 3 downs) and different strategies, and they've been doing that at about a Div. III/NAIA level (and poorly) for 15 years. Their kids would get killed lining up to defend I-formation runs with two TEs and a lead FB. It would take years, if not decades, to transition them to an FBS-level school.

3) TV sets? Fan interest? The entire population of Canada is ~34M. The state of California has 37M+ alone. Texas has 25M+.

To be honest, I'd rather attempt to raid the Ivy League before adding Toronto.
 
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Dryden;1995214; said:
A couple points, not to pee in everyones' cheerios, but ...

1) I have been lead to believe that Canadian college hockey is not very good, or popular. Anybody with talent goes to the CJHL and gets paid right out of high school. Or elementary school.

2) Toronto's on-campus stadium for football seats ~5,000 people. They're playing a sport with different rules (larger field dimensions, 12 players, only 3 downs) and different strategies, and they've been doing that at about a Div. III/NAIA level (and poorly) for 15 years. Their kids would get killed lining up to defend I-formation runs with two TEs and a lead FB. It would take years, if not decades, to transition them to an FBS-level school.

3) TV sets? Fan interest? The entire population of Canada is ~34M. The state of California has 37M+ alone. Texas has 25M+.

To be honest, I'd rather attempt to raid the Ivy League before adding Toronto.
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Thus my question of how fast they could make it viable. A good program could be made pretty quickly IF they showed that they were serious about it. Programs in good locations like USF and UCF have been built very quickly.

As for your TV set argument - Texas, California and such have split interests in who they watch. In Canada, its unlikely that such a thing would occur and Toronto is in and around the largest metro area of Canada.
 
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