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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
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I think if

A) UofT can devote much of it's financial windfall from being a B1G member into building up a football program, they will be sucessful. I'm talking Indiana/MAC level success, but at a world class institution. We don't need a world-beater of a football program, we need someone who can pull their weight financially plus some. I would even be for sending UofT to a lower conference as a football only member until they can at least get a program together. Look at Boise or UCF, it is perfectly possible if the administration puts the resources into it.

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B) UofT can bring all the Canadian tv sets. This has implications past merely tv. Having a presence in Canada, internationally, and a major one at that, could open all sorts of doors for the B1G and the CIC. International cooperation is HUGE in grants. Think about the sort of research opportunities this creates! Not only that, but think about stretching our footprint into an area that has yet to be touched at all by the rest of D1. I know that university hockey is not very popular (they prefer juniors), merely offering a chance for university hockey to be viewed in a different light is sure to spark the interest of the nation as a whole.

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C) Notre Dame has to be in the equation. I think this gives the domers exactly what they want. We bring in ND and UofT as everything but football members until Toronto gets their program together. There is no reason to put a deadline to it, but I would say 10 to 15 years. This gives ND a bit of wiggle room in transitioning out of indie status, but gives them a home for their olympics. But, it also gives the B1G the satisfaction of knowing that ND is contractually obligated to join when they say so (when they deem UofT ready).

I know most of this is pure talk... but part of me thinks Delaney has considered the option at one time or another... U of T is a FANTASTIC university and the CIC would kill to include them... it's an interesting proposition that has yet to really be explored entirely
 
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Ok I'm trying to catch up here. If the PAC gets UT, TT, OK, and OKst to get to 16, the ACC throws in UCONN and Rutgers, and we assume that the other major conferences want to go to 16 what does that leave the SEC and the B1G? Besides ND I don't see a whole lot that will add value to the BTN unless they take a lower tier team from a non B1G state and try to grow them. Besides ND the only natural fits are Mizz and Kansas. Beyond that you are looking at MAC or CUSA schools.
 
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Dryden;1995214; said:
I'd rather attempt to raid the Ivy League before adding Toronto.
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It would be interesting beyond belief should one or more Ivies decide they want in on the action of Big Time College Football once again. They were the biggest game around in the late 19th and early 20th century.
 
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Dryden;1995214; said:
3) TV sets? Fan interest? The entire population of Canada is ~34M. The state of California has 37M+ alone. Texas has 25M+.
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Really think about the argument you just made for a moment.

People have spent the past year and half drooling over themselves because Texas has a population of 25M. Similarly North Carolina is coveted because it has 9 1/2 M residents. The only real reason there is interest in Rutgers is because of Jersey's 9M peeps.

Ontario (that's the province that Toronto is in...they're sort of the Canadian version of States) alone has a population of over 13M.

That's more than every State outside of Cali, NY, Florida & Tejas.

There certainly are legitimate arguments as to why UT might not be a viable addition but you seem to be confused on the one surrounding population/potential TV sets.
 
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Muck;1995249; said:
Really think about the argument you just made for a moment.

People have spent the past year and half drooling over themselves because Texas has a population of 25M. Similarly North Carolina is coveted because it has 9 1/2 M residents. The only real reason there is interest in Rutgers is because of Jersey's 9M peeps.

Ontario (that's the province that Toronto is in...they're sort of the Canadian version of States) alone has a population of over 13M. That's more than every State outside of Cali, NY, Florida & Tejas.

There certainly are legitimate arguments as to why UT might not be a viable addition but you seem to be confused on the one surrounding population/potential TV sets.
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My point was not that there were too few TV sets to make it viable, rather it was that there aren't as many TVs as people may think when they infer from the discussion, "ZOMG! We would add the entire nation of Canada!"
 
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Pac-12 expansion: The latest on Texas, revenue sharing and 16-team division alignment

Talked to several sources this weekend about Texas joining the Pac-12 and the future of the Longhorn Network.

Let's get right to it.

*** Texas-to-the-Pac is not happening in the next 24 or 36 hours, folks. It could be a week, or weeks.

There are far too many issues still to be worked out, many of them involving UT's ultimate willingness to make the concessions necessary to join the Pac-12.

Despite what you may have read, the school and the conference are "nowhere near any agreement," according to one source.

(That doesn't mean a deal won't be reached, only that there are several layers to the negotiations and it could take time.)


*** The Austin-American Statesman reported that Texas could join the Pac-12 and keep the Longhorn Network, essentially with its own revenue model:

The Longhorns would be able to keep all of their revenue from the network if that amount is greater than one-sixteenth of what the entire Pac-12 receives for its third-tier rights. However, if one-sixteenth of the money the Pac-12 receives from third-tier rights ends up being a larger amount, the schools would divide the revenue evenly and everybody would receive the same amount, the source said.​

That is, at its very best, misleading.

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Just throwing this out there:

If we get Texas and ND, then I think that Toronto should be the 15th member. No other university would have that kind of impact on research. Given the monies involved, I could see them build a new stadium pretty quickly and get serious about American football.

Then you'd have the ultimate conference - Texas to Toronto. Between all three, you'd add at least $20 billion USD in endowments.
 
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