Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[scooter1369]

The B1G might as well take them to boost recruiting in FL, since it looks as though we are going to get total shit in any additions. It looks like Rutgers and Mizzou, plus maybe Kansas and another crap program.

If PBC was actually correct, which I doubt, about turning down OK, then I am just amazed at the level of incompetence.

UCF wants in. They are the biggest school in Florida in enrollment, have a central location in the state and Orlando isn't a bad place to visit in November. They have wins over Georgia last year and Alabama a few years ago. Beat BC two weeks ago. They are already competing with BCS schools. Let em in.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

The B1G might as well take them to boost recruiting in FL, since it looks as though we are going to get total [Mark May] in any additions. It looks like Rutgers and Mizzou, plus maybe Kansas and another crap program.

If PBC was actually correct, which I doubt, about turning down OK, then I am just amazed at the level of incompetence.

I'm just wondering why you doubt that the B1G turned down OK? Hasn't Delaney said from the beginning this is about more than football? If a school doesn't fit academically why would we take them. I'd rather stay at 12 than have some shit academic schools in the conference just to make football more money... as stated before in this thread....

research dollars DWARF football money... for all the other conferences this might be getting a few more football dollars... for the B1G its about getting more research dollars as well as football...

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

UCF wants in. They are the biggest school in Florida in enrollment, have a central location in the state and Orlando isn't a bad place to visit in November. They have wins over Georgia last year and Alabama a few years ago. Beat BC two weeks ago. They are already competing with BCS schools. Let em in.

Lets see, not an AAU member and very far away. I seriously do not think that Delany is looking at them for expansion. Adding UCF would be a drain to the conference.

The only viable options, if the Texas and ND things falls through, would be Kansas, Missouri or Rutgers. All three are AAU members and are in the footprint of Big Ten country. I know that Nebraska is not an AAU member, but they were members at the time they were added.

Why is everyone ignoring the University of Toronto? They are an AAU member and it would open up the untapped resource of Canada to the Big Ten network.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

I'm just wondering why you doubt that the B1G turned down OK? Hasn't Delaney said from the beginning this is about more than football? If a school doesn't fit academically why would we take them. I'd rather stay at 12 than have some shit academic schools in the conference just to make football more money... as stated before in this thread....

research dollars DWARF football money... for all the other conferences this might be getting a few more football dollars... for the B1G its about getting more research dollars as well as football...

Isn't the athletic budget 126 million and the research budget 755 million at OSU? Or do I have my facts wrong? It's possible.

 

[Woody1968]

I'm just wondering why you doubt that the B1G turned down OK? Hasn't Delaney said from the beginning this is about more than football? If a school doesn't fit academically why would we take them. I'd rather stay at 12 than have some shit academic schools in the conference just to make football more money... as stated before in this thread....

research dollars DWARF football money... for all the other conferences this might be getting a few more football dollars... for the B1G its about getting more research dollars as well as football...

This realignment is about football and television contracts for the Big Ten Network. Oklahoma is a national brand, Notre Dame is a national brand, Texas is a national brand. None of these other teams besides Missouri even puts any new television markets into the equation. Rutgers has been a traditional doormat in the Big East, and have virtually no following in the NYC market, which is why they are even on the list. Syracuse would have at least brought the BTN to my cable provider.

Now that the ACC has taken Syracuse, I am going to be forced to watch Georgia Tech play North Carolina State on ABC instead of being able to see Ohio State vs. scUM. Don't laugh, I am completely serious. in 2004, I was forced to watch some crap ACC game instead of the Bucks vs. The Weasels, due to regional broadcasting.

 

[BuckTwenty]

Why is everyone ignoring the University of Toronto? They are an AAU member and it would open up the untapped resource of Canada to the Big Ten network.

...and academically, they're the best school north of the border, and they're a great school. Definetly Big Ten worthy academically.

Simply, they're getting ignored because they don't have a football team. But one could be built. And it could be a really good one, with the whole country as its source (plus recruiting down south).

 

[OHSportsFan]

Why is everyone ignoring the University of Toronto? They are an AAU member and it would open up the untapped resource of Canada to the Big Ten network.

I'm intrigued by this as well.

Just as a quick look-
57k undergrads
475k alumni
$845M research
44 Men's and women's varsity teams across 26 sports

Looks like their football team dates pretty far back in history and had their moments (relative to their competition), but have been dreadful/non-existent the last 10 years.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

...and academically, they're the best school north of the border, and they're a great school. Definetly Big Ten worthy academically.

Simply, they're getting ignored because they don't have a football team. But one could be built. And it could be a really good one, with the whole country as its source (plus recruiting down south).

They have a football program.

http://www.varsityblues.ca/index.aspx?tab=football&path=football

 

[rampageripster]

They have a football program.

http://www.varsityblues.ca/index.aspx?tab=football&path=football

not only that... but one that is VERY rich in tradition... they actually do not have a losing record against scUM... SIGN THEM UP!

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

I beginning to think the Tejas ship has sailed, and the more I think about it the happier I am.

With the Horns comes way too much baggage.

At this point, I'm hoping the B1G holds at 12 or, if ND (finally) capitulates we pick up them one one other quality school. I like the Univ. of Toronto talk, if for no other reason than it being so completely outside of the box.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Road trip to Toronto sounds like a blast

 

[OHSportsFan]

Road trip to Toronto sounds like a blast

 

[knapplc]

With the Horns comes way too much baggage.

Succinct and full of truth. They're a great school in many ways. But the negative outweighs the positive.

 

[jlb1705]

...I'm not arguing this one way or another, I would just look for a superconference moneygrab once the dust settles... and I'm not sure they'd be wrong to do it...

we'll have to agree to agree.

 

[Mrstickball]

I'm intrigued by this as well.

Just as a quick look-
57k undergrads
475k alumni
$845M research
44 Men's and women's varsity teams across 26 sports

Looks like their football team dates pretty far back in history and had their moments (relative to their competition), but have been dreadful/non-existent the last 10 years.

I think Toronto would be a great add. My only question would be how long it'd take for their football to become viable as a B1G team.

If they could, with reasonable assurances, become D1A-worthy (even if on the level of Indiana or Minnesota), it should be a smart, out-of-the-box addition.