Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[ORD_Buckeye]

I don't think any of the ACC schools are moving soon. Maybe in 6-7 years when the Big Ten is negotiating its next deal w might see some opportunity for things to change. I think the conference is set until then.

I do tend to believe the Big Ten will end up in Florida, like it or not. Yeah, AAU, research, etc...There's too many people and too much talent and too much money to be made to cede the state to the SEC.

B1G doesn't need to be in Florida anymore than it needs to be in Texas, or for that matter, than the SEC needs to be in New York, Chicago or LA. I could see GaTech over either Miami or FSU. If the B1G really needs to plant its flag in SEC territory, that's where they'll do it, and I give that about a 10% chance. FSU is just never, ever going to happen. Besides, they and Clemson, are such a perfect fit for the SEC that that is exactly where they'll end up.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

FSU is just never, ever going to happen. Besides, they and Clemson, are such a perfect fit for the SEC that that is exactly where they'll end up.

Yep! I want nothing to do with FSU.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Someone brought up the educational aspect of adding to the B10. Yeah, there's a research-based programmatical aspect to membership, don't remember the alphabetical designation (AAU?), but don't know/believe that FSU or UM meet those criteria. FLA does, but they're entrenched in the SEC. From what I know, Oregon might be a bit light there, but Udub might have a significant amount of outside research going on. Certainly not as much as Stanford and Cal, but that's an issue for another day. Seems more like the B10 is trying to lock down the larger population areas for cable purposes, rather than maintain educational/research standards.

UW actually does more research than Cal. Cal doesn't have a medical school. UW does more than we do (1.67B to 1.23B). In the B1G, the top five order would be:

TSUN: 1.71B
UW: 1.67B
UCLA: 1.47B
Wiscy: 1.4B
Ohio State: 1.23B

 

[Abenaki]

B1G doesn't need to be in Florida anymore than it needs to be in Texas, or for that matter, than the SEC needs to be in New York, Chicago or LA. I could see GaTech over either Miami or FSU. If the B1G really needs to plant its flag in SEC territory, that's where they'll do it, and I give that about a 10% chance. FSU is just never, ever going to happen. Besides, they and Clemson, are such a perfect fit for the SEC that that is exactly where they'll end up.

We'll see. I don't want them, I just think that's where we're heading.

 

[CincyInterloper]

UW actually does more research than Cal. Cal doesn't have a medical school. UW does more than we do (1.67B to 1.23B). In the B1G, the top five order would be:

TSUN: 1.71B
UW: 1.67B
UCLA: 1.47B
Wiscy: 1.4B
Ohio State: 1.23B

That seems like something university presidents would weigh pretty heavily, but I don’t know how much influence they ultimately have on decisions involving conferences expansion.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

That seems like something university presidents would weigh pretty heavily, but I don’t know how much influence they ultimately have on decisions involving conferences expansion.

They have all the influence. Did you notice how fast Warren's head jerked back when they throttled his plans to continue expanding.

 

[OHSportsFan]

Things are going well in PAC 12 land. Yikes.

Sounds like rent is due and WSU ain’t got what they thought.


Full statement.

Washington State president Kirk Schulz says WSU athletics will have “temporary freeze on all current & future vacant positions until further review, as well as a pause on non-essential travel, purchases & new professional development” because of “significant decrease in Pac-12 revenue distribution as result of overpayments from one of the conference media partners that must be resolved. Relocation of the Pac‑12 headquarters out of San Francisco exceeded budget projections as well. Additionally, WSU projects that Cougar Athletics exceeded its expenditures for the year due to inadequate documentation of revenues and expenses.”

 

[ScriptOhio]

Big Ten realignment: Northwestern president 'not really thrilled' with addition of USC, UCLA​

Schill said at a Northwestern University Faculty Assembly meeting Monday that he is “not really thrilled” with the additions of those West Coast programs, citing concerns about travel. Undoubtedly, the proximity from Los Angeles to the rest of the Big Ten footprint is bound to make for long and expensive flights, which could be particularly challenging for teams within the non-revenue sports.

“While he remains ‘skeptical about the initial decision,’ Schill believes adding more West Coast teams to the Big Ten, in addition to UCLA and USC, could result in less overall travel time for all teams in the conference,” The Daily Northwestern’s Pavan Acharya said.

Multiple remaining members of the Pac-12 reportedly reached out to the Big Ten about potential membership in the wake of last summer’s developments, but the conference has not extended invitations to any additional expansion candidates. While further expansion would remedy Schill’s travel concerns to an extent, the Big Ten would then have to split its revenue among more member schools, potentially resulting in smaller distributions to each institution.

Schill became the Northwestern University president in September 2022 after holding the same role at the University of Oregon. During his time in Eugene, Schill served as the chair of the Pac-12 CEO Group and was a member of the NCAA Board of Governors.

Oregon, coincidentally, would likely be one of the Big Ten’s top priorities should it seek additional member schools on the West Coast.

Schill also spoke about the complaint filed by the National Labor Relations Board filed toward USC, the Pac-12 and the NCAA, which alleges that the university has “misclassified” football and basketball players as student-athletes rather than employees. The Northwestern president stated that “he anticipates the grievance could be brought to the U.S. Supreme Court,” Acharya said.

the proximity from Los Angeles to the rest of the Big Ten footprint is bound to make for long and expensive flights, which could be particularly challenging for teams within the non-revenue sports.

ESPN: The Big Ten is projected to eventually distribute $80 million to $100 million per year to each of its 16 members. According to USA Today, the league distributed $54.3 million to most of its members during the most recent fiscal year (2019-20) not impacted by the coronavirus pandemic.

What's the problem here? He'll be getting and (at least) additional $30M million per year on the new TV contracts, etc. That should adequately cover the non-revenue sport's travel costs with plenty left over.

 

[Woody1968]

Big Ten realignment: Northwestern president 'not really thrilled' with addition of USC, UCLA​

Schill said at a Northwestern University Faculty Assembly meeting Monday that he is “not really thrilled” with the additions of those West Coast programs, citing concerns about travel. Undoubtedly, the proximity from Los Angeles to the rest of the Big Ten footprint is bound to make for long and expensive flights, which could be particularly challenging for teams within the non-revenue sports.

“While he remains ‘skeptical about the initial decision,’ Schill believes adding more West Coast teams to the Big Ten, in addition to UCLA and USC, could result in less overall travel time for all teams in the conference,” The Daily Northwestern’s Pavan Acharya said.

Multiple remaining members of the Pac-12 reportedly reached out to the Big Ten about potential membership in the wake of last summer’s developments, but the conference has not extended invitations to any additional expansion candidates. While further expansion would remedy Schill’s travel concerns to an extent, the Big Ten would then have to split its revenue among more member schools, potentially resulting in smaller distributions to each institution.

Schill became the Northwestern University president in September 2022 after holding the same role at the University of Oregon. During his time in Eugene, Schill served as the chair of the Pac-12 CEO Group and was a member of the NCAA Board of Governors.

Oregon, coincidentally, would likely be one of the Big Ten’s top priorities should it seek additional member schools on the West Coast.

Schill also spoke about the complaint filed by the National Labor Relations Board filed toward USC, the Pac-12 and the NCAA, which alleges that the university has “misclassified” football and basketball players as student-athletes rather than employees. The Northwestern president stated that “he anticipates the grievance could be brought to the U.S. Supreme Court,” Acharya said.





What's the problem here? He'll be getting and (at least) additional $30M million per year on the new TV contracts, etc. That should adequately cover the non-revenue sport's travel costs with plenty left over.

They're nerds, so more travel disrupts their study time.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Must be worried they'll be put in the East

 

[Mike80]

Yes, consider the source, but if it's even remotely true this is wild...

 

[Woody1968]

Miami is now AAU.

Notre Dame being AAU, is a non-factor IMO, B1G would not care either way. ASU is interesting in terms of travel partnerships only, prob a non starter, but dies have Phoenix market.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Miami is now AAU.

Notre Dame being AAU, is a non-factor IMO, B1G would not care either way. ASU is interesting in terms of travel partnerships only, prob a non starter, but dies have Phoenix market.

And the juggalos still aren't. Ono was such a big talking grifter, but those mongoloids ate it up.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Miami is now AAU.

Notre Dame being AAU, is a non-factor IMO, B1G would not care either way. ASU is interesting in terms of travel partnerships only, prob a non starter, but dies have Phoenix market.

Put USF in the B1G just to watch the Juggalos those their minds.

 

[dragurd]

Put USF in the B1G just to watch the Juggalos those their minds.

I assume Miami is going to get in invite unless FSU gets in in the next *checks watch* decade...