Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Abenaki]

I'd take Florida and Georgia, that would be an absolute grand slam and I would drive to Chicago to apologize to Kevin Warren in person. A&M, despite being A&M, would be a home run too, because you know the B1G would love to get into Texas. It's not gonna happen though.

Personally I'd sit at 16 through this media deal, though I don't think that's gonna happen either.

Notre Dame is staying where they are for the next 7-8 years until the B1G and the SEC start to strip the ACC for parts, then they'll join the B1G. I doubt they're going to 18, so 3-7 spots left to get to 20-24.

I think something like: Stanford, Oregon, Washington, UNC, UVa, GT, and Miami is what will end up happening. Mix of academic brands, athletic brands, and markets. Gets you nationwide, with foot holds in SEC country and regular road trips to recruiting hot beds.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

With 16 teams the 3-6-6 is beautiful.

With 18 teams the 3-7-7 is a great 10 game schedule but we will lose our big OOC games. OK if we bring good teams to replace that.

With 20 it’s 1-9-9 which I guess 1 protected game is ok. Or it’s pods of 5, and we only play the West coast schools every 3 years. Not good for recruiting exposure and waters down the number of big games.

With 24 it’s not even a conference anymore unless you go 12 games with a 1-11-11.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

With 16 teams the 3-6-6 is beautiful.

So who are Ohio State's 3? tsun obviously. Then, I think they'll add the pedsters because the conference has been trying to make that a thing forever. Then what? The stupid Illinibuck that nobody's cared about since Red Grange? I think UCLA would be cool, and it gets the Buckeyes playing in Socal three times every four years.

 

[Woody1968]

With 16 teams the 3-6-6 is beautiful.

With 18 teams the 3-7-7 is a great 10 game schedule but we will lose our big OOC games. OK if we bring good teams to replace that.

With 20 it’s 1-9-9 which I guess 1 protected game is ok. Or it’s pods of 5, and we only play the West coast schools every 3 years. Not good for recruiting exposure and waters down the number of big games.

With 24 it’s not even a conference anymore unless you go 12 games with a 1-11-11.

I think the end will be 2 24 school conferences split into 4 divisions.

 

[colobuck79]

3-6-6 sounds like a TSUN defense alignment

 

[Woody1968]

3-6-6 sounds like a TSUN defense alignment

I thought it was the wonderlic scores for their last 3 QBs

 

[Abenaki]

With 16 teams the 3-6-6 is beautiful.

With 18 teams the 3-7-7 is a great 10 game schedule but we will lose our big OOC games. OK if we bring good teams to replace that.

With 20 it’s 1-9-9 which I guess 1 protected game is ok. Or it’s pods of 5, and we only play the West coast schools every 3 years. Not good for recruiting exposure and waters down the number of big games.

With 24 it’s not even a conference anymore unless you go 12 games with a 1-11-11.

To your last point, I know COVID messed up the 2020 schedules, but we're already not doing great there. Ohio State hasn't played Iowa or Illinois since 2017. Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson played their whole college careers without playing against Iowa or Illinois. CJ Stroud and JSN are almost certainly going to the league having never played Illinois.

If not for the Big Ten Championship game, Ohio State has played Northwestern once since 2016. Minnesota has been on the schedule twice since 2015. It hasn't been a great stretch for rotating through the league is what I'm saying.

 

[Abenaki]

So who are Ohio State's 3? tsun obviously. Then, I think they'll add the pedsters because the conference has been trying to make that a thing forever. Then what? The stupid Illinibuck that nobody's cared about since Red Grange? I think UCLA would be cool, and it gets the Buckeyes playing in Socal three times every four years.

I love it. Make it happen.

 

[Abenaki]

Looks like the contract has a Notre Dame clause if they join during the deal.

 

[Steve19]

I sincerely believe that the Big Ten must cut Notre Dame out of their schedules. Take away those big stadiums and big name games and the travel cost will create real pressure on their sports programs. Make them come to you on their knees

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Well, if I heard correctly, NBC is giving them 60M a year. Let's assume that's true, that's surely a lot of money. But, it leaves 40M on the table compared to the B1G which will be over 100M per school. That 40M adds up quick. B1G schools will have doubled up on ND in just 3 years. Quadrupled before the expiration of this contract period. Independence probably has real meaning and value to them. But, 240M over 6 years is a stiff price to pay, if you ask me. Bare in mind, the B1G per school numbers are based on TV deals that don't include them right now. Guessing the addition of ND puts each schools share around 120M

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

To your last point, I know COVID messed up the 2020 schedules, but we're already not doing great there. Ohio State hasn't played Iowa or Illinois since 2017. Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson played their whole college careers without playing against Iowa or Illinois. CJ Stroud and JSN are almost certainly going to the league having never played Illinois.

If not for the Big Ten Championship game, Ohio State has played Northwestern once since 2016. Minnesota has been on the schedule twice since 2015. It hasn't been a great stretch for rotating through the league is what I'm saying.

We can’t have that moving forward. Divisions are shit and then they added crossovers as home and home and some as 4 year crossovers. It’s like they played a game of how much can they fuck it up. Leaders and legends titles were the top of the iceberg.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

So who are Ohio State's 3? tsun obviously. Then, I think they'll add the pedsters because the conference has been trying to make that a thing forever. Then what? The stupid Illinibuck that nobody's cared about since Red Grange? I think UCLA would be cool, and it gets the Buckeyes playing in Socal three times every four years.

I think Penn state and ttun are two. My guess is they give each school the pick of two and then the third would be whatever is left and trying to level out the perennial powers.
Like they can’t have northwestern with rivals Illinois, Purdue and Indiana. They need to give them someone decent.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I think Penn state and ttun are two. My guess is they give each school the pick of two and then the third would be whatever is left and trying to level out the perennial powers.
Like they can’t have northwestern with rivals Illinois, Purdue and Indiana. They need to give them someone decent.

Also can't load up a school with 3 perennial powers and give another school 3 perennial cupcakes. OTOH, I think they're going to bend over backwards to have Ohio State and tfun (those fucksticks up north) out West as much as possible. Which is why I think it might break down as:

Ohio State: tfun, pedsters, UCLA
TFUN: Ohio State, Sparty, USC

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I sincerely believe that the Big Ten must cut Notre Dame out of their schedules. Take away those big stadiums and big name games and the travel cost will create real pressure on their sports programs. Make them come to you on their knees

They'll just get quietly transferred to another Catholic university to do it all over again.