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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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I used to like the Thursday night games, no competition, and when I was at Virginia for grad school they got bigger in person attendance when the Cavs were playing, than the Saturday games did. It seems the caliber of teams playing on Thursday night has really pummeted over the last decade and a half, though.
 
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Dryden said:
Disagree. People are inherently tribal and defensive about things they like. Networks still control commentators, graphics, and broadcast windows, so getting 'in bed' with a competent TV partner with broad reach is incredibly important.
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Respectful disagreement (because Dryden is a smart poster) and my counterpoint.

The most inherently tribal and vocal (and in some cases, violent) fans in the US are NFL football fans.
They do not give a shit if their games are on CBS or Fox. They don't care if their teams play on ESPN for Sunday Night, ABC for Monday night or NFL Network for Thursday night.

They give weighted preference to Prime Time games (naturally), but other than that the network is meaningless.

I think this is how most college football fans will feel in 2-3 years.
 
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Woody1968 said:
I used to like the Thursday night games, no competition, and when I was at Virginia for grad school they got bigger in person attendance when the Cavs were playing, than the Saturday games did. It seems the caliber of teams playing on Thursday night has really pummeted over the last decade and a half, though.
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The NFL started playing on Thursday. Which I hate. I loved the college Thursday night games. Louisville beating Florida State and Oregon State beating USC immediately come to mind.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
So, from reports today, what Warren is angling for is a series of marquee games spread across FOX (11am), CBS (3:30) and NBC (Primetime). ESPN would have been cut out of this and were being asked to pay $380M for second and third tier games--maybe you shouldn't have shit on the B1G every chance you had for the last decade and a half!

Back to the NBC part, this is appealing. At first it sounded like we were going to be the "shoulder games" for ND's 3:30 game and just pawns to pump up their value. Now, what happens when the domers want a primetime game however? The contact had better be ironclad to lock that primetime slot in for solely B1G games.
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100% bet the ND/Southern Cal game is in Primetime
 
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BigWoof31 said:
Respectful disagreement (because Dryden is a smart poster) and my counterpoint.

The most inherently tribal and vocal (and in some cases, violent) fans in the US are NFL football fans.
They do not give a shit if their games are on CBS or Fox. They don't care if their teams play on ESPN for Sunday Night, ABC for Monday night or NFL Network for Thursday night.

They give weighted preference to Prime Time games (naturally), but other than that the network is meaningless.

I think this is how most college football fans will feel in 2-3 years.
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I mean, I don't really care what channel my team is on, so long as I can watch them. But I guarantee that ESPN will, at best, ignore the Big Ten and, at worst, spend all of GameDay and College Football Final and SportsCenter and whatever other shows they have working to discredit the Big Ten because it's in their financial interest to promote the SEC and have more SEC teams in the season ending beauty pageant. That's when it's going to become tribal.
 
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Also, Dick Ebersol--who was a committed Notre Dame cultist--is gone. What's a more valuable property to the MBAs running the show now? Seven Notre Dame games or 12 marquee BIG games?

Even with Notre Dame currently nationally relevant, everything I've seen is that Ohio State and tsun each turn on more TV sets and have bigger fan bases. What happens if the domers go in the toilet for 5 years, as they're prone to do? If Ohio State does, there will still be other BIG schools that are nationally relevant and fighting for the playoffs.

If I'm on the NBC team, and I'm jeopardizing the B1G deal to give the domers special treatment, I should be shitcammed.
 
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Abenaki said:
I mean, I don't really care what channel my team is on, so long as I can watch them. But I guarantee that ESPN will, at best, ignore the Big Ten and, at worst, spend all of GameDay and College Football Final and SportsCenter and whatever other shows they have working to discredit the Big Ten because it's in their financial interest to promote the SEC and have more SEC teams in the season ending beauty pageant. That's when it's going to become tribal.
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So they're going to keep doing what they've been doing since the day the BTN was announced.
 
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Abenaki said:
I mean, I don't really care what channel my team is on, so long as I can watch them. But I guarantee that ESPN will, at best, ignore the Big Ten and, at worst, spend all of GameDay and College Football Final and SportsCenter and whatever other shows they have working to discredit the Big Ten because it's in their financial interest to promote the SEC and have more SEC teams in the season ending beauty pageant. That's when it's going to become tribal.
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I disagree.
 
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Abenaki said:
I mean, I don't really care what channel my team is on, so long as I can watch them. But I guarantee that ESPN will, at best, ignore the Big Ten and, at worst, spend all of GameDay and College Football Final and SportsCenter and whatever other shows they have working to discredit the Big Ten because it's in their financial interest to promote the SEC and have more SEC teams in the season ending beauty pageant. That's when it's going to become tribal.
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TL;DR

Fuck the fucking fuckers at E-SEC-PN
 
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