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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Woody1968 said:
It also could be a first step in creating a new governing and rulemaking body instead of the NCAA for these 3 conferences.
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There's some savvy in this as well. I've been saying for a while now that the ESPN model of alienating three quarters of the country to go all in on the SEC is a stupid business model. Very few people in LA give a good goddamn about Alabama. No one in New York gives a rats ass about Auburn. People in Chicago aren't champing at the bit to take in the Egg Bowl. With this alliance, there is coast to coast reach. Hey, ESPN.. you want to limit this to the South Eastern US? Well, fine... good luck with that.

[insert morgan freeman meme]
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
There's some savvy in this as well. I've been saying for a while now that the ESPN model of alienating three quarters of the country to go all in on the SEC is a stupid business model. Very few people in LA give a good goddamn about Alabama. No one in New York gives a rats ass about Auburn. People in Chicago aren't champing at the bit to take in the Egg Bowl. With this alliance, there is coast to coast reach. Hey, ESPN.. you want to limit this to the South Eastern US? Well, fine... good luck with that.

[insert morgan freeman meme]
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2020 data but Nielsen DMA rankings

The SEC footprint only contains 6 of the top 20 (DFW #5, Houston #8, Atlanta #10, Tampa#12, Miami#16 and Orlando #18)

Of the top ten markets the SEC contains 8.9% of the US market. The Alliance of Northern Aggression contains 21.17%

IMO, the SEC/ESPN did everyone else a favor here. They drove the rest of the CFB to band together to pick up, essentially, the Houston and DFW markets. Even better, they removed the need for the other conferences to even pretend to be playing nice.

It's the rednecks vs the rest of us and they are the ones who set it up that way.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
It wasn't nothing. It was the ACC, B1G and Pac putting the SEC and ESPN on notice that they have the votes to control how things look going forward.
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
There's some savvy in this as well. I've been saying for a while now that the ESPN model of alienating three quarters of the country to go all in on the SEC is a stupid business model. Very few people in LA give a good goddamn about Alabama. No one in New York gives a rats ass about Auburn. People in Chicago aren't champing at the bit to take in the Egg Bowl. With this alliance, there is coast to coast reach. Hey, ESPN.. you want to limit this to the South Eastern US? Well, fine... good luck with that.

[insert morgan freeman meme]
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Hey I like the Egg Bowl. Where else can you watch a team lose a game because a guy fake urinates?
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
There's some savvy in this as well. I've been saying for a while now that the ESPN model of alienating three quarters of the country to go all in on the SEC is a stupid business model. Very few people in LA give a good goddamn about Alabama. No one in New York gives a rats ass about Auburn. People in Chicago aren't champing at the bit to take in the Egg Bowl. With this alliance, there is coast to coast reach. Hey, ESPN.. you want to limit this to the South Eastern US? Well, fine... good luck with that.

[insert morgan freeman meme]
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SEC! remains a regional conference where almost none of the schools have large, national alumni bases. Prestige Worldwide is coast-to-motherfucking-coast and full of universities that have large alumni bases in every major metro area in the country.
 
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I wish there was a good option to nab in Houston. Rice is s fantastic University but the 2 major sports aren’t up to par, and Houston is better for sports but the University ain’t great. Neither has the kind of fan base you look for.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
There's some savvy in this as well. I've been saying for a while now that the ESPN model of alienating three quarters of the country to go all in on the SEC is a stupid business model. Very few people in LA give a good goddamn about Alabama. No one in New York gives a rats ass about Auburn. People in Chicago aren't champing at the bit to take in the Egg Bowl. With this alliance, there is coast to coast reach. Hey, ESPN.. you want to limit this to the South Eastern US? Well, fine... good luck with that.

[insert morgan freeman meme]
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True points, but ESPN also sees that most of the high end talent is going to the SEC and is from the south. And most players going to the NFL have been from the SEC, and ESPN has more skin in the game for the NFL than they do for college. This is a long game, IMO. ESPN/SEC is nice, but what really pays the bills is the NFL, and advertising future players for people's NFL teams is what it seems like they're doing. (6 of 10 2021 draft picks from the SEC). ESPN will concede those cities in college because they pick those teams up in the NFL anyway.
 
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Woody1968 said:
So supposedly Dave Wanstedt has gone on the radio (670 in Chicago) and stated that the Pac, B1G and ACC will be taking 5 of the remaining Big XII programs.

- OSU and KSU to the Pac-12
- WVU to the ACC
- KU and Iowa State to the Big Ten

Supposedly this was leaked last week at the Fox/conference meetings, but could be total BS. Hopefully BS or a lot of pissed off people in the near future.
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Wow. Wonder where Wanny buys his weed?
 
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pnuts34 said:
True points, but ESPN also sees that most of the high end talent is going to the SEC and is from the south. And most players going to the NFL have been from the SEC, and ESPN has more skin in the game for the NFL than they do for college. This is a long game, IMO. ESPN/SEC is nice, but what really pays the bills is the NFL, and advertising future players for people's NFL teams is what it seems like they're doing. (6 of 10 2021 draft picks from the SEC). ESPN will concede those cities in college because they pick those teams up in the NFL anyway.
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ESPN used to be pretty much the only game in CFB (which they've never been in the NFL)

They've been bleeding money for a long time because of their foresight and negotiation skills.

Adding Texas/Oklahoma doesn't alter the perception of their bias. Particularly since most have been the heel of jokes for most of fifteen years.
 
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