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jakenick06
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And even with that, I really believe there will be contraction that comes along as well. WTF do some of these power 5 schools bring to the picnic that warrants a share of that corporate bag?
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Agree.
I think there is a real chance of a ~30 team group of current P5 teams that would go play in a football only semi pro league. Players get paid, get a GI Bill-like agreement to finish their degree in the future from that school and long term health care. You funnel a cut of the profits back to each school for non revenue sports and/or general fund.
Traditional rivalries and Bowl games probably can't be saved there but you could still do something.
I could absolutely live with something like this and don't see any big downside at this point.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Dynamic has changed. Last time around there was a Baylor grad in the statehouse who forced Baylor and Tech to come along. Abbott is a tejas grad, and I don't think he'll lift a finger to stop it.
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This has been coming for some time, and NIL only forced the hand of Super conferences and showed how powerless the NCAA once the Supreme Court ruled against them. I predicated a 4 Super conference model a few years ago, and no one took me serious. CFB has been turning into the NFL every single year, and the coaches salaries, the arms race for facilities only brought this even closer. A lot of fans have a problem with NIL, but are fine with their coach making 5+mil/yr, or having TVs in every locker, waterfalls, nutritionists, custom trophy rooms, etc etc, CFB has been semi-pro football for years, the only thing missing was that the people actually doing the playing weren't getting paid. So all that changed is we stopped actin like CFB is all about amateurs anymore. Its hard to say that these guys are amateurs in the world of recruiting and social media. I'm sure there some people who know more about recruits than they do members of their own family. I'm all for the @Jaxbuck model, and let's stop acting like CFB players are comparable to regular students. Like James Caan said in the Program "when's the last time 100,000 people watched a chemistry exam"? 
For people who want "traditional" college football, with unpaid players and guys playing "for the love"(essentially they're not good enough to be paid with the big boys), then go watch D2 and D3, NAIA. Schools like ONU(my daughter's current school, go Polar Bears), Heidelberg, Wisconsin-Whitewater, Mt Union would love a higher attendence. But don't complain when the quality isn't what you were used to...
For people who want "traditional" college football, with unpaid players and guys playing "for the love"(essentially they're not good enough to be paid with the big boys), then go watch D2 and D3, NAIA. Schools like ONU(my daughter's current school, go Polar Bears), Heidelberg, Wisconsin-Whitewater, Mt Union would love a higher attendence. But don't complain when the quality isn't what you were used to...
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Systems_id
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Heard some talk about the B1G poaching the PAC-12. Wouldn’t mind whipping USC and Oregon’s asses every couple of years.
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With regions essentially being irrelevant, it'll be very interesting to see who they go after. I've seen everyone from ND, Iowa St, Kansas, UNC, West VA, Iowa St, etc. If they want to keep up with the name brands of the SEC, then adding ND, USC, Oregon would only help.
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Not sure where he got this from, my buddy sent this to me. It's actually pretty good and logical:
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
If by "pretty good and logical" you mean "pretty retarded and ignorant."
Iowa State: a school that is Matt Campbell leaving from going back to being a historic bottom feeder in a low population state where 80% of the population are fans of the existing B10 school within its boundaries. They have no national brand or alumni base. Academically, though and while no UCLA, their AAU status does not seem in jeopardy. Unlike...........
Kansas: A true college basketball blueblood. It's just too bad that, in the world of college expansion, being a basketball blueblood and a $200 will get your dick sucked at a Nevada whorehouse. That's about it. It doesn't count for shit (that will cost you more at the whorehouse). Not to mention that right now, there are half a dozen B1G schools that can recruit for basketball by telling recruits they will have a chance to win B1G championships, get high tourney seeds and maybe make a Final Four. That all goes away if you bring in Kansas. Their football--the sport that matters in this--is that of one of the sports historical doormats and currently the worst program in the P5. Academically, they're hanging onto their AAU membership by a thread and a prayer, and the day that Harvard, Chicago and Stanford wake up feeling like shitting on some public university somewhere, they are the one most likely to be voted out.
Ever since we started this whole thing in the late 80s by bringing in the pedsters, there has been one constant. The Big Ten does not approach expansion and realignment in a panicky, reactive manner. It approaches it in a methodically proactive, coldly rational manner, and when it strikes, it slashes like a god damned hammer.
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Bill Lucas
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Then tell me what the regional hammer is because Notre Dame isn’t happening and the other pickings in the region suck compared to what the SEC seems primed to do.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
GO WEST, YOUNG MAN
This doesn't have to be regional. Teams aren't taking trains to games these days.
USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington to start. We add Stanford and Cal for the SF market, Olympic sports, academic prestige and just because we fucking can. We're coast-to-coast PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE. Four game championship series with 3 division winners and a wild card; championship game rotates between the Rose Bowl and the Bears' new stadium.
We'd control the lion's share of major media markets, schools with actual national alumni bases (so sorry Clemson and Bama, but you're still shitty regional Southern schools) and academic schools while having a big chunk of both football and basketball bluebloods. That boom the SEC just heard wasn't a squadron of F22's flying overhead. It was the Big Ten slapping its dick down onto the table of college football and breaking the damned thing in half.
Or we could be a bunch of panicky bitches and take in a couple of schools that were a million miles off our radar three days ago.
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Your analysis is spot on, of course, but it doesn't even touch the "retarded and ignorant" Big XVI (current Big XII), which would be left with THREE Power5 teams, and would have no business being involved in any kind of big boy football - Air Force? North Texas? Wyoming? Tulsa? Louisiana Tech? Are you fucking kidding me? These are schools that the Ohio States and Alabamas of the CFB world schedule in early September for an easy 50-point ass kicking.
As far as the Big Ten goes, I don't think they'd ever take Kansas and Iowa State because they offer nothing - no academic prestige, no football prestige, no TV markets. The only way that the Big Ten would ever take those bottom feeders is if they were part of some kind of package deal ... and with Texas and Oklahoma going to the SEC, who else could you package with Iowa State and Kansas? Nobody, that's who.
Go West or stay home ... Big-Pac merger or bust.
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
Then the battle for most incompetent commissioner would then commence.
It's a cool idea in theory, but there isn't any leadership at the helm in either conference to make it happen.
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