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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
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I know we love to make fun of the "THEY DIDNT WANT TO BE THERE!" argument for when some team loses a bowl game it probably shouldn't.

But you could argue this makes it harder for the G5 "little guy" to win.

Coastal Carolina would not be getting some say 3rd place SEC team down because they missed the SEC title game/Playoff, where half the team probably sits out. They'd be getting a fully equipped & motivated team who still has a chance to win the title.

Good luck.
 
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LovelandBuckeye said:
If the Top 4 seeds don't get an on-campus game then they can go EABOD.
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Imagine like Georgia hosting a 1st round game and then being the “visitor” the next week playing like Ohio State or Notre Dame In fucking Atlanta. Talk about a joke.

Certain situations could and will end up being a advantage for the higher seed with that set up.

LSU, USC, The Florida and Texas schools are other possibilities of this. Depending on what bowls they’d pick to have a rotation with for the final 4

They rake in the money from the first round home game and then essentially get a home game against a top 4 seed

I understand the title game is definitely going to be a “neutral site” but no way should a higher seed be playing a essential home game against one of the top 4
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Wonder if they are going to use the same super secret, arbitrary and opaque ranking process they use now to determine who gets to host and who has to travel?
"We just felt that the 6 SEC teams were better than the rest of the field because of their body of work against each other..."
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Under the proposal for a 12-team format, the four highest-ranked conference champions would be seeded 1-4 and receive a first-round bye. Teams 5-12 would play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team.
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Yeah, just fill in the teams:

CFPs.jpg


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LovelandBuckeye said:
I would watch the shit out of Florida plating in Nippert just to see how crazy it will get with Florida-Man and Juggalo. Other than that, fuck 12 teams.
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This raised a question. Do you think the NCAA or some other governing body is going to screw over schools with small stadiums and make them play in a nearby pro stadium? In order to host a game your stadium must have 60,000k minimum seats sorta thing.
Would Nippert be dropped and UC have to play in Paul Brown? Boston College has to play at Gillette Field? Coastal Carolina has to play at S.Carolina's stadium?
 
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BigWoof31 said:
This raised a question. Do you think the NCAA or some other governing body is going to screw over schools with small stadiums and make them play in a nearby pro stadium? In order to host a game your stadium must have 60,000k minimum seats sorta thing.
Would Nippert be dropped and UC have to play in Paul Brown? Boston College has to play at Gillette Field? Coastal Carolina has to play at S.Carolina's stadium?
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In my opinion, they shouldn't do that (which means they probably will)
 
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NorthCoastKid said:
Meh, whatever.
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It feels kinda broken to me... you give the top four teams a big advantage with that bye week, which hugely benefits the Bamas and Ohio States who will be there more often than not. Not only do they get a bye week and two weeks to prepare, the other team not only has to win a game, but they get half the time to prepare for a team that will almost always have vastly superior talent.

And if OSU/Bama don't manage to be top four due to a bad regular season, they’re still almost certainly going to make the playoff with two losses, so you still give a team with massively more NFL talent than anyone else a shot to make a run despite not "earning it" in the regular season.

In both cases Ohio State will benefit more often than not, so I also say whatever, but for people who think this is going to level the playing field, I'm thinking that's not going to be the case.
 
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Exploring the Weaknesses of a 12-Team College Football Playoff

The 12-team College Football Playoff model revealed Thursday is almost perfect, the athletic director said from the other side of the phone line.

Almost, he reiterated.

Almost.

“The top four seeds don’t get to host a playoff game,” says the AD, who wished to remain anonymous. “I hope they can change their mind on that. It’s a key flaw.”

Nothing is perfect. And though the latest CFP proposal comes close, there are issues. Sports Illustrated spoke to more than a dozen college administrators to field reaction over a model that, by and large, seems to have captured overwhelming support from the industry’s brass.

For starters, the model provides all 130 FBS teams an opportunity to make the field—different from any other version ever used in college football history. The proposal also guarantees a spot to at least one Group of 5 champion, and it places mandatory importance on winning a conference title, since the four byes are assigned only to the top four league champs.

Also, it still maintains a human element by using rankings from the selection committee and it features an aspect that has never existed in a major college football postseason: on-campus games.

Oh, but there are problems. Of course there are. There’s the aforementioned quandary regarding the site of the quarterfinals—at bowls instead of on campuses. While the top four seeds get a bye into the quarterfinals, they won’t host a game at their stadiums like seeds Nos. 5-8 in the first round.
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Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2021/06/11/college-football-playoff-12-team-system-weaknesses

What the Previous College Football Playoffs Would've Looked Like With 12 Teams

2020
• Alabama (1) — first-round bye
• Clemson (2) — first-round bye
• Ohio State (3) — first-round bye
• Oklahoma (4) — first-round bye

• No. 5 Notre Dame vs. No. 12 Coastal Carolina (winner plays Oklahoma)
• No. 6 Texas A&M vs. No. 11 Indiana (winner plays Ohio State)
• No. 7 Florida vs. No. 10 Iowa State (winner plays Clemson)
• No. 8 Cincinnati vs No. 9 Georgia (winner plays Alabama)

https://www.si.com/college/2021/06/10/college-football-playoff-12-teams-last-seven-years

Just sayin': 12 is too many teams and games (which adds an extra week to the CFPs).



In addition, since the 1st round will be "home games", it will diminish an already diminished (lower tier) bowl schedule. I'm sure the NCAA and/or CFP Committee won't care; but, those 1st round of games will probably hit when the participating schools are having their fall semester final exams too. They should have stopped at 8.
 
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Just go to 128 teams. 7 rounds. Oh, wait - there are 130 teams, I believe. I guess we need to go to 8 rounds, where 126 teams get a bye the first round. Everyone is in. And just play all of the games the first 3 rounds in some other stadium but one of the participants. Pull names from a hat or something. Re-pick if you draw your own stadium. Fourth round (16 games) to be played at all the dinky bowls, like the Mr Potatohead Marshmallow Cake bowl. Fifth round (8 games) to be played at the 6 major bowls plus add 2 more. Sixth round (4 games) to be played in Tokyo, Toronto, London, and in Mexico City. Seventh round (2 games) to be played in Bryant Denny Stadium and in... aw hell.. play that second game in Bryant Denny Stadium, too. Championship game can be in Dallas, New Orleans, Miami, Los Angeles, or in Atlanta - whichever is closer to the Big Ten team's opponent, if the Big Ten is still in it.

On second thought, no - keep it at 128 teams so M*ch*gan still doesn't make the playoffs. Ever.
 
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